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    Dirty deeds done dirt cheap?

    Ok. The old lady who lives behind me is letting 2 mulberry trees grow just on the other side of my fence. If anyone has ever dealt with a mulberry tree they suck. Too add to it I have a cherry and apple tree on my side and her trees will end up overshadowing mine and will starve them of sun. Is there any way to kill a tree and not look like I killed it? A friend says to drive a copper nail into them. They're only about 2" - 3" diameter right now but these things grow pretty fast. To me they are a weed not a tree.


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    yeah..spray some killzall on it in the middle of the night.

    They'll just die.

    And unless your some kind of farming CSI

    I think you'll just think it died.
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    Silly question. Have you tried speaking with the woman yet?
    Might be a simple solution to this simple problem.
    Then again, maybe not.
    I'd try a civilized conversation first,see where it takes you.
    Time to lawyer up if she won't play ball.

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    If he talks to her she will think he is a dumbass .... kind of like we do .... plus if the trees die she will think I bet that dumbass had something to do with it ... she might end up beating him up...


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    "Fooling around with alternating current is just a waste of time. Nobody will use it, ever." Thomas Edison, 1889.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vmc1161 View Post
    If he talks to her she will think he is a dumbass .... kind of like we do .... plus if the trees die she will think I bet that dumbass had something to do with it ... she might end up beating him up...


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    Why not ask her to cut them down....or let you cut them down.

    Maybe plant her a new tree there... or just pay her for letting you cut them down.

    Why resort to some underhanded scheme ???

    Might be able to move them for her...

    Id try a few honest methods of resolving this before resorting to some kind of underhanded and criminal act.

    Of course I would never resort to a criminal and underhanded act because of a messy mulberry tree...

    God put that tree there for a reason....very possibly just to annoy you..... or to teach some sort of lesson in getting along with others or reasoning with others... patience.... who knows....

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    Your library has books by Nolo Press on Neighbor Law. You won't like what you read there.

    The guy from the county said I could cut off the branches that hang over my property but if the tree dies it's my problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corny View Post
    Why not ask her to cut them down....or let you cut them down.

    Maybe plant her a new tree there... or just pay her for letting you cut them down.

    Why resort to some underhanded scheme ???

    Might be able to move them for her...

    Id try a few honest methods of resolving this before resorting to some kind of underhanded and criminal act.

    Of course I would never resort to a criminal and underhanded act because of a messy mulberry tree...

    God put that tree there for a reason....very possibly just to annoy you..... or to teach some sort of lesson in getting along with others or reasoning with others... patience.... who knows....
    And if that doesn't work, try plan"B"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMigIzCvc44

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    Oh boy, all kinds of visions going through my mind ... Matt sneaks over and cuts the tree down and it lands on his car ... or him ...

    If the rumors about him are true he should just put a pair of his underwear near the tree's roots ... those trees will be dead before he gets to his front door...

    Or he could just use some of his janitorial stuff to eradicate that poor ole tree.


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    "Fooling around with alternating current is just a waste of time. Nobody will use it, ever." Thomas Edison, 1889.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vmc1161 View Post
    Oh boy, all kinds of visions going through my mind ... Matt sneaks over and cuts the tree down and it lands on his car ... or him ...

    If the rumors about him are true he should just put a pair of his underwear near the tree's roots ... those trees will be dead before he gets to his front door...

    Or he could just use some of his janitorial stuff to eradicate that poor ole tree.


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    That gets two of these.

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    Just move your trees and be done with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    Just move your trees and be done with it.
    But they block the view from next door of his favorite pee-pee spot next to the house ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    Just move your trees and be done with it.
    But, there's no drama doing it that way.

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    Just spread some copper tox on your side of the yard what you put on your yard is your business but it may kill your trees as well. I have used it before on problem trees that their roots keep stopping swer lines it takes about two years to kill them but it will take them out.

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    I have heard the copper nail works, but I don't know where to find a copper nail. mybe you could cut some soft copper, heat it and pound it into a nail shape. Cold working should harden it enough to drive.

    Do her trees have any roots under the fence? That would be a good spot to apply the nail or poison.
    Mostly off topic;
    I did cut down a tree with gunfire, unintentionally. At the 275 yards at my range, I had a hanging steel plate. It hung from a fencepost nailed to two trees. After a couple of years, the downwind tree, a 16" diameter pine, broke off in a storm, right at the point all my misses hit it.
    Here's a video, the target being shot is 550 yards, the dead tree is at the lower left, still holding up the target (white thingy.)


    That would be a fun way to get rid of her tree, or her. Or you might get to meet the SWAT Team.
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    dont know about mulberry trees but do know fig trees have a seroius
    allergy to a heavy brine solution pumped across the fence with a
    small centrifugal pump & a piece of 1/2 hard drawn for a wand.
    dont think many trees can hold up against salt but oleanders thrive on it.
    tried d scaler g on an oleander b& then salt & the only thing that happened is it got bigger & bigger. that was 20 years ago & the dam n thing is still there & about 25 ft. tall now.

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    This lady don't like me for whatever reason. I've always been nice to her. The 1st week I lived there she biached about the fence row not being trimmed. I've kept it trimmed now since I've lived there for 6 years and she never trims her side.

    The underwear idea seams pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattm View Post
    This lady don't like me for whatever reason. I've always been nice to her. The 1st week I lived there she biached about the fence row not being trimmed. I've kept it trimmed now since I've lived there for 6 years and she never trims her side.

    The underwear idea seams pretty good.
    Kill her with kindness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattm View Post
    This lady don't like me for whatever reason. I've always been nice to her. The 1st week I lived there she biached about the fence row not being trimmed. I've kept it trimmed now since I've lived there for 6 years and she never trims her side.

    The underwear idea seams pretty good.
    I think this lady has a little iron clad dominatrix purse.

    Inside this purse. Is your balls.

    With your balls should took your inability to be a man.

    A man who mulberry trees.

    I think you'll learn to love them.

    Or you can pour killzall on it like I said and get your balls back.

    Maybe throw some..I don't..clark griswold type stuff in it..like toiletpaper her house.

    Hell Burn it down..

    Your a man now.
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    MULBERRY

    Morus spp.
    Moraceae
    Common Names: Mulberry.
    Species: White Mulberry (Morus alba L.), Black Mulberry (M. nigra L.), American Mulberry, Red Mulberry (M. rubra L.). Hybrid forms exist between Morus alba and M. rubra.

    Related Species: Korean Mulberry (Morus australis), Himalayan Mulberry (M. laevigata).

    Distant Affinity: Breadfruit (Artocarpus altilis), Jackfruit (A. heterophyllus), Fig (Ficus spp.), Che (Cudrania tricuspidata), African Breadfruit (Treculia african).

    Origin: The white mulberry is native to eastern and central China. It became naturalized in Europe centuries ago. The tree was introduced into America for silkworm culture in early colonial times and naturalized and hybridized with the native red mulberry. The red or American mulberry is native to eastern United States from Massachusetts to Kansas and down to the Gulf coast. The black mulberry is native to western Asia and has been grown for its fruits in Europe since before Roman times.

    Adaptation: The white mulberry, and to a lesser extent the red mulberry, are quite tolerant of drought, pollution and poor soil. The white mulberry is considered a weed tree in many parts of the country including urban areas. The black mulberry is more fastidious, faring less well in cold climates or areas with humid summers. The white mulberry is the most cold-hardy of the three species, although this varies from one clone to another. Some are damaged at 25° F, while others are unfazed at -25° F. Red mulberries are hardy to sub-zero temperatures. The black mulberry is the least cold-hardy of the three, although again cold tolerance seems to depend on the clone. In general it is limited to USDA Hardiness Zone 7 (0° to 10° F average minimum) or warmer. They have been planted only to a limited extent in America, mostly on the Pacific Coast. The mulberry makes a good town tree which will grow well in a tub.

    DESCRIPTION
    Growth Habit: All three mulberry species are deciduous trees of varying sizes. White mulberries can grow to 80 ft. and are the most variable in form, including drooping and pyramidal shapes. In the South on rich soils the red mulberry can reach 70 ft. in height. The black mulberry is the smallest of the three, sometimes growing to 30 ft. in height, but it tends to be a bush if not trained when it is young. The species vary greatly in longevity. Red mulberry trees rarely live more than 75 years, while black mulberries have been known to bear fruit for hundreds of years. The mulberry makes an attractive tree which will bear fruit while still small and young.
    Foliage: The white mulberry is so-named for the color of its buds, rather than the color of its fruit. The thin, glossy, light green leaves are variously lobed even on the same plant. Some are unlobed while others are glove-shaped. Leaves of the red mulberry are larger and thicker, blunt toothed and often lobed. They are rough on their upper surfaces and pubescent underneath. The smaller black mulberry leaves are similar to those of the red mulberry, but with sturdier twigs and fatter buds. The species vary in the time of year they begin to leaf-out. White mulberries generally come out in early spring, almost two months before black mulberries.

    Flowers: Mulberry trees are either dioecious or monoecious, and sometimes will change from one sex to another. The flowers are held on short, green, pendulous, nondescript catkins that appear in the axils of the current season's growth and on spurs on older wood. They are wind pollinated and some cultivars will set fruit without any pollination. Cross-pollination is not necessary. In California mulberries set fruit without pollination.

    Fruit: Botanically the fruit is not a berry but a collective fruit, in appearance like a swollen loganberry. When the flowers are pollinated, they and their fleshy bases begin to swell. Ultimately they become completely altered in texture and color, becoming succulent, fat and full of juice. In appearance, each tiny swollen flower roughly resembles the individual drupe of a blackberry. The color of the fruit does not identify the mulberry species. White mulberries, for example, can produce white, lavender or black fruit. White mulberry fruits are generally very sweet but often lacking in needed tartness. Red mulberry fruits are usually deep red, almost black, and in the best clones have a flavor that almost equals that of the black mulberry. Black mulberry fruits are large and juicy, with a good balance of sweetness and tartness that makes them the best flavored species of mulberry. The refreshing tart taste is in some ways reminiscent of grapefruit. Mulberries ripen over an extended period of time unlike many other fruits which seem to come all at once.

    CULTURE
    Location: Mulberries need full sun and also adequate space. The distance between trees should be at least 15 ft. The trees should not be planted near a sidewalk. The fallen fruit will not only stain the walkway, but are likely to be tracked indoors. The trees are quite wind-resistant with some cultivars used as windbreaks in the Great Plains region.
    Soil: Mulberries like a warm, well-drained soil, preferably a deep loam. Shallow soils such as those frequently found on chalk or gravel are not recommended.

    Irrigation: Although somewhat drought-resistant, mulberries need to be watered in dry seasons. If the roots become too dry during drought, the fruit is likely to drop before it has fully ripened.

    Fertilization: Mulberries generally thrive with minimal fertilization. An annual application of a balanced fertilizer such as 10:10:10 NPK will maintain satisfactory growth. In California mulberries usually need only nitrogen.

    Pruning: No special pruning techniques are needed after the branches have been trained to a sturdy framework, except to remove dead or overcrowded wood. A mulberry tree can be kept to a tidy form by developing a set of main branches, and then pruning laterals to 6 leaves in July in order to develop spurs near the main branches. It is not advisable to prune the trees heavily since the plant is inclined to bleed at the cuts. Cuts of more than two inches in diameter generally do not heal and should be avoided at all cost. The bleeding will be less severe if the tree is pruned while it is dormant.

    Propagation: Mulberries can be grown from seed, although the plants can take 10 years or more to bear. Seed should be sown as soon as extracted from the fruit, although white mulberry seeds germinate better after stratifying one to three months before planting.

    Sprig budding is the most common method for grafting mulberries. A T-cut is made in the rootstock and a smooth, sloping cut is made on the lower end of the scion. The scion is then inserted into the T and wrapped and sealed. Other types of grafts are also usually successful, although there may be incompatibility between white and black mulberries. Hardwood, softwood and root cuttings also are suitable methods for propagating mulberries. Softwood cuttings of white mulberries root easily when taken in midsummer and treated with rooting hormone. Red mulberries are less easily rooted. Black mulberries are also somewhat difficult to propagate since they tend to bleed a lot.

    Pests and Diseases: Mulberries are generally free of pests and diseases, although cankers and dieback can occur. In some areas "popcorn disease" is an occasional problem, in which fruits swell to resemble popped corn. M. alba/M. rubra hybrids are particularly prone to this condition. The disease carries on from one season to the next, so collecting and burning infected fruits help control it. The ripe fruit is very attractive to birds, but there is usually enough fruit left over for harvesting.

    Harvest: White and red mulberry fruits (and hybrid fruits) are ready for harvest in late spring. The fruit of black mulberries ripen in summer to late summer. The fruits of white mulberries are often harvested by spreading a sheet on the ground and shaking the limbs. A surprising quantity can be gathered from a comparatively small and young tree. Black mulberry fruits are more difficult to pick. As the berries are squeezed to pull them loose, they tend to collapse, staining the hands (and clothing) with blood red juice. Unwashed the berries will keep several days in a refrigerator in a covered container. The ripe fruits of the black mulberry contain about 9% sugar with malic and citric acid. The berries can be eaten out of hand or used in any way that other berries are used, such as in pies, tarts, puddings or sweetened and pureed as a sauce. Slightly unripe fruits are best for making pies and tarts. Mulberries blend well with other fruits, especially pears and apples. They can also be made into wine and make an excellent dried fruit, especially the black varieties.
    "Nothing else can poison our culture, corrupt our society or ruin the character of our people like unearned money or unearned opportunity." -- James R. Cook

    "Fooling around with alternating current is just a waste of time. Nobody will use it, ever." Thomas Edison, 1889.

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