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10-01-2009, 04:13 PM #1New Guest
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What to buy??? Consumer has questions...
...and I'd love to hear from you guys since you're the experts!
Basically, I'm looking at replacing one or two units in a two-zone house (one definitely has to be replaced -- it's dying -- but since both are the same age I might do it all at once).
I hear Trane isn't what it used to be -- and that it uses the same parts as everyone else. Is that true? I always figured it to be the Rolls Royce of AC units.
Dealer I'm talking to says Rheem represents a good value and Goodman an event better value, especially since they can sell me a 10-year warranty with the Goodman. From the little bit of reading I've done online, I've seen quite a few negatives with Goodman, though.
If any of this matters, I live in South Florida and the ACs are used just about 11 months of the year.
The dealer I'm talking to may carry other brands, but those are the three he mentioned. I could shop with other dealers, too, though I do like this company. They told me to stay away from Carrier (which is what I currently have).
Again, any thoughts would be appreciated
10-01-2009, 04:19 PM #2
i think you will find that most people here agree, that while everyone has manufacturers that we prefer, it all comes down to the quality of the install. just make sure that you are dealing with a qualified contractor.
10-01-2009, 06:58 PM #3
What's wrong with Carrier?nagakatta yo mou sukoshi de atatakai hizashi abireru, honto wa gutto koraete'ta jibun ni dake wa makenai you ni, nagakatta yo mou sukoshi de atatakai hizashi abireru, hanarete sugoshiita jikan ga samishiku nakatta to ittara uso ni naru...
Not as lean, not as mean, but I'm still a hardcore, ass-kicking, hard charging Marine! Oohrah!
10-01-2009, 07:19 PM #4
JMHO, but if he said to stay away from Carrier, I'd ask him "why". From my perspective, the guys who don't want to carry Carrier are those who do not like the financial requirements and purchases that are required to become a Carrier dealer. So, he may have a grudge.
How much money you decide to spend is the same in HVAC as it is with cars, televisions, etc. The question is, how much quality (and features) do you want, and what are you willing to pay? Yes, the quality of the install is VERY important. So is the warranty. Some car companies have a 10 year warranty, but you won't find me driving one of their vehicles.
Depending on the value of your home, when you plan on moving from that home, the projected value of your home (which is only a guess) at that time, and what type of equipment and features are common to the competing homes are all talking points for the equipment you put into your home today. You may want to talk with someone who is knowledgeable in these areas, since capital equipment does affect value when compared with others.
There are many fine, top end brands that cost more, and justifiably so, and then there are those that can get the job done with few bells and whistles, and they can cost much less up front.
It's good you are doing your research, and remember to think "big picture."
"Begin with the end in mind."
10-01-2009, 07:48 PM #5
he's a trane dealer, of course he's steering you away from carrier. i on the other hand work for carrier and it is my job to steer customers away from trane. but to be honest they are both very good units.
10-01-2009, 08:34 PM #6
Carrier check this out -in my opinion- is on top of their stuff.
I sell Heil which again -in my opinion- has the best bang for the buck
Trane I sold and installed a lot of Trane. Top notch stuff for sure.
99.99999% of this is going to be installation.
again check this one more time goodman -in my opinion- is the most thrown together piece of equipment on the market and here are my reasons for basing that opinion.
Goodman replaced Janitrol *unless I'm mistaken* and they are very inexpensive.
That's not a bad thing.
The bad thing is in order to get that very inexpensive price tag they have to sacrifice a few..things. For instance the goodman rep in my area even told me.
You might have 1 unit with copeland scroll, very good compressor. You might just get one with a tecumseh or bristol reciprocating compressor...fine but not quite the same thing as a copeland scroll.
That's just a little thing, another thing that erks me the wrong way is how flimsy the body and frame are on these units...it's just..not good.
All in all they have a decent warranty but they are not the only ones who offer such a warranty. I've seen some last 10 years no problem I've seen some only last 2.
So..go for install but then choose a reputable manufacture and consumer reviews..It's a good idea to read em all.R-HVAC techs make the world a cool place.