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  1. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by classical View Post
    It depends on the state but in most cases no you cannot pursue and retaliate but it would also depend on the circumstances.

    why would you want to go after them. I would be happy they left. The only time I would pursue them is if there was a abduction. (unless it was my first wife, then I would take a few days to report it )

    After a home invasion, IF the BG leaves, your only duty is to be a good witness for the police.

    There was an old saying, If your shoot them and they fall outside your house, drag them back inside, then you won't be charged. That pretty much applies everywhere except NJ and Mass. Those two states have the "UK" attitude
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmac00 View Post
    Yes, but thats not what the article is about is it. This guy is being charged for beating the guy while still IN THE HOME. In this country we have the GOD GIVEN RIGHT to kill anyone in our home that was not invited. Weather the bad guy is armed or not, we have the right to shoot your sorry, uninvited butt dead......GOD BLESS AMERICA (and pass the ammunition)

    Some states also have the Castle Doctrine, which basically says, that a perpetrator's estate may not sue you if you kill him in your home (thats a very simple explanation of the CD )
    No, the original article specifically states the guy was running off the homeowner's property. The homeowner, his brother, and their nephew caught him in a neighbor's yard and proceeded to beat him with a bat and a metal pipe. I have no sympathy for the guy but I am sure the homeowner would not have been charged if he broke his legs rather than beat him over his head.

    The Castle Doctrine, this may come as a surprise to you, comes from British Common Law. Your Castle Doctrine says that you can protect yourself but does not give you the right to blow someone away in your house if you are not in immediate danger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by printer2 View Post
    No, the original article specifically states the guy was running off the homeowner's property. The homeowner, his brother, and their nephew caught him in a neighbor's yard and proceeded to beat him with a bat and a metal pipe. I have no sympathy for the guy but I am sure the homeowner would not have been charged if he broke his legs rather than beat him over his head.

    The article I read did not mention this part, still it sucks.

    The Castle Doctrine, this may come as a surprise to you, comes from British Common Law. Your Castle Doctrine says that you can protect yourself but does not give you the right to blow someone away in your house if you are not in immediate danger.
    Again that depends on the state, in Texas we have the right to use deadly force to protect our property or our neighbor’s property. In this case it may have been possible to make the case that they were attempting to protect their neighbor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    Which were: I am going to kill you.

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    Just remember those words. I don't think someone breaking into my home would be looking for change for a dollar nor would I give them the chance to ask for it....

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    I think texas has the right idea. My thinking is if they are dead they can't sue.

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    All sorts of forms of the castle doctrine but then again there are many other forms of retreat. In some states you must retreat and only shoot if you feel your life is in danger. Like Classical said some states have a property clause that allows you to shoot to kill over property. Remember Joe Horn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by printer2 View Post
    No, the original article specifically states the guy was running off the homeowner's property. The homeowner, his brother, and their nephew caught him in a neighbor's yard and proceeded to beat him with a bat and a metal pipe. I have no sympathy for the guy but I am sure the homeowner would not have been charged if he broke his legs rather than beat him over his head.

    The Castle Doctrine, this may come as a surprise to you, comes from British Common Law. Your Castle Doctrine says that you can protect yourself but does not give you the right to blow someone away in your house if you are not in immediate danger.
    typical Liberal/socialist thinking? IF the BAD GUYS are in my house, I AM IN IMMEDIATE DANGER.........sheesh, you think Joe College student just kicked in my front door because he needs to use my phone?

    WHEN someone kicks in your front door what do you sheeple do? ask him if there is something you can help him with? Like help hold your wife down while he rapes her? .........ME!!! I'm letting the air out of the scum bag
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    Jmac is exactly right.

    The fact that someone breaks into your home is evidence enough that you are in extreme danger. What additional evidence should be required?

    If the law here in PA changes, I'll move.

    Texas sounds like a good place to live.

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    Or testify

    The best all around method is summed up this way: no body.

    Handle it all yourself. Make sure there is no body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodsman View Post
    I think texas has the right idea. My thinking is if they are dead they can't sue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    The best all around method is summed up this way: no body.

    Handle it all yourself. Make sure there is no body.

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    cordless sawzall & plenty of blades & a few garbage bags..
    we think more alike everyday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marvin View Post
    cordless sawzall & plenty of blades & a few garbage bags..
    we think more alike everyday.

    a chipper/shredder and a couple good size dogs is all you really need, no fuss, no muss
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