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    Frown Counterfits. (was: Made in China, NO NOT SPORLAN TOO!!!)

    I was doing a search for a Sporlan suction filter, my favorite brand that I used and trusted for over 25 years, and this is one of the links I found.

    http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/20...ion_Valve.html

    If things keep going this way, we will be making "Call Backs" 24/7.

    Crap like this is enough to make you wanna give up and quit this trade.
    Last edited by EugeneTheJeep; 08-17-2009 at 09:50 PM. Reason: Clarification

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    You've probably already installed some, you don't even know about. Who knows what the manufactures are using these last few years?

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    I bought a couple ALCO take-apart txv's the other day and was very surprised to see "made in china" stamped on them as well. I guess Emerson is outsourcing them now that they bought out ALCO.
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    I guess they are all making a killing on selling inferior made parts at prices that are meant for quality made in the USA parts?

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    Why do you think A-S/Trane R22 TXVs are dropping like flies?

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    It disappoints me, the last thing the american economy needs is MORE stuff outsourced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69Stang View Post
    It disappoints me, the last thing the american economy needs is MORE stuff outsourced.
    The smart thing to do, is try and figure these type problems in your bids.
    I don't think things are gonna change in the near future.

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    Job security

    sucks for people who had jobs in manufacturing

    great for us

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    Its not like they worry about infringing on trademarks over there, they have started their own company and called it The Hop-Sing Sporlan Company
    The way we build has a greater impact on our comfort, energy consumption and IAQ than any HVAC system we install.

    http://www.ductstrap.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2001 View Post
    I was doing a search for a Sporlan suction filter, my favorite brand that I used and trusted for over 25 years, and this is one of the links I found.
    Hangzhou/Sikelan has been copying Sporlan, Alco, and Parker products for years. Sporlan/Parker has no association with them, and I'm certain Alco/Emerson Flow Controls has no association with them either.

    I had the occasion to meet with them during the China refrigeration show in Shanghai last year. They were interested in my opinion on well they were copying our products.
    If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail. – Abraham Maslow

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    Andy, are you saying that all Sporlan TXVs are still made in the USA? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I really want to know. I try to buy anything U.S. made that I can.
    Anything I say here is only my opinion. Even if you understood what I said.... What I said may not even be what I meant.

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    I believe Andy is right, if you go to the http://www.parker.com/portal/site/PA...extfmt=default

    and select China, it show no affiliation to Hangzhou/Sikelan. That makes me feel better, now how to get around all of the Chinese motors??

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    I just found out that I was made in China
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    ...masquerading as its own cure…
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