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    Hmm

    if prices go up....just use smaller copper line right?






    This is the splice in the ceiling to the existing copper...

    There's 5 units at this office building....all different brands...And all state of the art installs like you see here....
    I hear the roof units are in sorry shape....I'm afraid to look..

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    Sweet Jesus, that's incredible. Just flip that condenser upside down and walk away..By the way how did you get your pic's so small? I posted some of mine and they're way too big for the screen

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    Sad brazzing skills

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    Those old Ruuds wanted the 1/4" liquid line, that newer Heil probably doesn't appreciate it.

    Size your pix in your imaging program before uploading. I use 640x480 or whatever the aspect ratio is.

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    looks like someone needs to the the fundamentals of brazing 101. That is some horrific welds. I was going to say I can't belive that they are not leaking, but I guess its hard to leak when you use a stick of silflow to braze each connection.

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    Talking

    Yeah the RUUD has a 1/4" line...as does the heil...as does the 2 new DuKanes...He just spliced em in the ceiling to the existing 3/8" line (as ya see in that one pic..)

    There's a lot of work in this building including the rooftop units.....there will definitely be more pics to follow...

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    Just braze the bejabbers out of that line!! It also looks like they crimped/pinched down at the dryer.

    Isn't it a beautiful world??

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    Re: High Tubing prices

    These pics remind me of the pics I see on daily basis around the apt complex I work at. Theres a total of 280 plus units here and many have been done the same way on somewhat newer change outs/replacements units and even some of the coils. Most of the ones here are due to the fact that when the complex was built 17 years ago 1 1/2 & 2 ton Tranes were installed and 1/4" and 1/2 " were standard line sizes back then. The lines run in walls and between floor joists between floors( multi level apts ) so replacing line sets isn't a option. Now anytime I have to replace a condensor or coil at least I'm using reducers to keep from doing the crimping thing...
    Now a ??? for those more experienced then me. Is there any formula or rule of thumb I should use when checking pressures ( especially high side ) to take in consideration the down sized line sizes. What I'm asking is do I need to run a lower or higher pressures based on the smaller line sizes.
    Thanks,
    Martin

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    now thats some quality work for u.. what size is that suction and high side line?? what size is the condenser/heatpump?

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