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    Goodman 92% vs. 95% Gas Furnace?

    I am building a new home and it is bid for a 92% Goodman gas furnace. My HVAC contractor is trying to talk us into a 95% Goodman. Is it worth the extra money and is it truely that more efficient? Any help would be great as soon as posible because he wants to order the units this week.. Thanks

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    I dont know what the bid is (pricing forbidden here).
    Why not spend a few dollars more for the better option?
    I would say YES...

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    If the optional upgrade is to the 2-stage GMV95 with an ecm blower it's worth while.

    ECM/variable speed blower motors consume far less energy than their conventional counterparts and can improve a/c dehumidification. (Blower ramps up slowly to get the coil cold fast, dehumidistat to slow down on demand is optional)

    A 2-stage system when controlled by the correct thermostat can reduce noise and improve heat distribution.

    The 95% eff GMH unit has a standard multi-speed blower motor and can't be controlled by a 2-state thermostat - I wouldn't pay a significant premium over the base model to save a little bit of gas.
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    95% should qualify for a tax credit I believe!? That might make the much nicer furnace very reasonable.
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    Isn't the tax credit only for retrofits?
    General public's attitude towards our energy predicament: "I reject the reality of finite resource depletion and substitute it with my own; energy is infinite, we just need an alternative storage medium to run the cars on. The economy can grow indefinitely - we just need to "green" everything! Technology is energy! Peak what?"

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    Just says... If installed in a homeowners primary residence before jan 2010 you qualify. Call yer tax advisor. The 95% should qualify and 30% tax credit makes the best option cheaper than the cheapest possible. I sell goodman/amana and I forgot they even make a 92%er. I've never sold one, 95% is a no brainer upgrade to me, if you want efficiency, why go for "Kinda efficient"????
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    Goodman Furnace Ratings anyone??

    Can anyone tell me a good place to find reviews or ratings on Goodman furnaces vs Carrier or Trane? I hate to open a can of worms here but just looking for a site that has real people, homeowners and installers, who review or rate these different brands.

    I found one site but looks like it only has one review. I own 2 apartment complexes outside of Chicago and may need to replace many gas furnaces at the same time. Any help is much appreciated!

    By the way, I am uncertain how to start a new thread here... sorry!

    Thanks in Advance!
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    When someones writes a review of a furnace, he/she is really reviewing the installation, not the equipment.

    Just find a good contractor.
    General public's attitude towards our energy predicament: "I reject the reality of finite resource depletion and substitute it with my own; energy is infinite, we just need an alternative storage medium to run the cars on. The economy can grow indefinitely - we just need to "green" everything! Technology is energy! Peak what?"

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    A direct fired gas furnace isn't even 95% efficient, not much chance that one with a heat exchanger is.

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    I found some info here stating that if you go to 95% efficiency your tax rebate is up to $1500 with your yearly savings as much as 30% higher. I'm not sure if this info is correct. They have it stated with 2 examples with a Natural gas or propane (LP) furnace - 95% efficiency (AFUE) or greater.

    They also state that "combined with utility company rebates and credits you can now save up to 50% of the cost of the most energy efficient heating and air conditioning systems" the full info is here: http://www.acoverstock.com/tax-rebate

    I'm still looking for some furnace ratings. Anybody? Im looking for a table matrix comparing Trane, Goodman, Carrier. Goodman is obviously the cheapest and I am buying multiple so I wanted to get the tax credits and still save a significant amount of upfront money as well. I think I am going to go with the 95% efficiency Goodman for the apt complex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesands View Post
    A direct fired gas furnace isn't even 95% efficient, not much chance that one with a heat exchanger is.
    What are you talking about? There are numerous high eff residential furnaces that are rated for 95% AFUE.
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    I heard York now has a new 98% Efficiency. The highest one out there or not? I know Carrier also has one, I believe. I will have to find where i got that info.

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    Yup, I found the York 9.C 98% Gas furnace on their website. Its 120K BTU

    http://www.yorkupg.com/homeowners/furnaces/index.asp

    Wow, kind of high priced though. Its listed for a little over $2400

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