Inexperience Vs Employment

**techswife** · 08-09-2009, 05:49 PM

Can i ask? if you guys were to recieve a "cold" application letter and resume, what would it take to interest you enough to call that person and want to interview them? Basically, how could someone talk there way into an entry level position?

**bigbird** · 08-09-2009, 05:59 PM

Give "all temp heating & air" a call, They might have a job opening.
There in riverside,ca.
BIGBIRD

**samejj** · 08-09-2009, 06:10 PM

does hubby keep in touch with people he went thru school with and if so are they having a hard time too? i know new grads in my area are having a hard time but i think its across the board for everyone not just HVAC/R folks.

**fcs** · 08-09-2009, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by techswife

Can i ask? if you guys were to recieve a "cold" application letter and resume, what would it take to interest you enough to call that person and want to interview them? Basically, how could someone talk there way into an entry level position?

A good resume not a wordy one asking if we have opening from the Candidate,

The candidate stopping in and then being told he stop in again was polite and just check in one on one shows motives.

Seeing that he is in RSES, is going to training when ever possible.

he Need to get to know the Guys at the Supply Houses working there is a great start he get on the inside track.

Ask if he can do ride along to learn when dropping of resumes

Any thing to show he interested in WORKING Hard and better himself.
Motivation and to show he willing to keep learning is the key.

I've been impressed any time I see RSES( www.RSES.org ) And very impress when I see a new guy going to Training (check the supply Houses) on their own.

**timebuilder** · 08-09-2009, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by techswife

Makes perfect sense, if I find a job for him to apply for once i pass the contact details on to him, its all on him. Im done at that point other than making sure socks match if he gets an interview. I think he interviews well, he loves talking about technical stuff, and has confidence in his abilities. Generally when an employer is polite enough to send him a rejection letter, its positive about his skills, its his lack of experience that kills him. Thats the killer we're finding, he applys for endless "entry level" positions.........that all seem to ulitmately require experience.

Maybe I didn't fully explain what I was suggesting.

There is value for him to present himself HERE. Now that you found the site and posted with us, yadda, yadda, it's time for him to introduce himself. If he becomes a known quantity on the site, there is a MUCH larger possibility that the folks here can help him. No guarantees, mind you, but right now, it could appear, albeit incorrectly, that he isn't interested in reaching out to the many folks here with whom he should be communicating directly.

And, I mean this in a very nice way, and I'm trying to not sound harsh or arrogant. However, human nature suggests that a man needs to step forward and put out his hand....

Now, as to your other question: under what circumstances would a cold resume be considered?

First pile would be personal recommendations from people I trust.

Second pile would be great resumes where the person had contacted me personally.

Third pile would be resumes with no follow up. Unless the guy is Willis Carrier or Dave Lennox, that pile gets pushed into the circular file #13.

**69Stang** · 08-09-2009, 07:34 PM

Make sure the resume is clean and easy to read format wise ( I haven't looked yet but will check it in a few).

His attack plan:
1.) Call the shop, ask if any positions are available.
2.) If they are, fax or personally bring in the resume.
3.) THANK EVERYONE FOR ANY HELP OR TIME (being polite matters)
4.)Follow up with a call, tell them you are interested in discussing what he can bring to the company.

Rinse. Repeat.

Be nice to EVERYONE. The song "It's a small world after all" always seems to play in this business. If you make good impressions on people, it can go a long way.

**fcs** · 08-09-2009, 08:22 PM

his class A and driving job history with his school would make him a hire for supply house it a great foot in the door for HVAC

**timebuilder** · 08-09-2009, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by fcs

his class A and driving job history with his school would make him a hire for supply house it a great foot in the door for HVAC

That's a good point. Big opportunity for meet and greet.

**techswife** · 08-09-2009, 08:43 PM

ok potentially stupid question guys.........can we find supply houses for hvac listed on the blue book? if not.......can you give us some ideas? thanks muchly

**fcs** · 08-09-2009, 08:55 PM

get on line
here is few of the big ones
http://www.myjohnstone.com/SelectState.asp
http://www.ccdickson.com/
http://www.bakerdist.com/
http://www.uri.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP....GQpgCWdzRErmo=

**techswife** · 08-10-2009, 07:33 PM

just a quick thanks for your help, resume has been edited and is hopefully much easier on the eyes

**69Stang** · 08-11-2009, 10:34 AM

I wish your husband the best of luck. He is very lucky to have a wife like you.

It is a tough market out there, the economy is in rough shape, so try not to get discouraged.

I highly recommend he try to get involved in some kind of community service where he uses his skills.

Habitat for Humanity - HVAC installs
Local EMT and/or Firefighter Squads - FREE maintenance (filter changes, coil cleaning, etc.)

Just get involved. In this business, there are A LOT of connections, meeting a few people and showing them he is a good person will go a LONG way.

Again, best of luck

**beenthere** · 08-11-2009, 03:24 PM

The way she has been staying at it. They might hire her instead.

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