Inexperience Vs Employment

[Joe Cool]

lol

[HeyBob]

Beachie...............I "get" it! .........................LOL

[techswife]

just wanted to say thanks to you guys for all of your help and advice. We just finished going through the blue book, and will be sending out 120 job applications/resumes. In total that will bring us to 360, no wonder its hard to keep being hopeful hey? But thank you for your help, much appreciated.

[timebuilder]

I'd love for my husband to be the one posting........but he's basically allergic to the internet. So this is my way of trying to help, I also do a daily job search, I use MEP.com HVAC agent.com indeed.com simplyhired.com, diversityjobs.com caljobs.com lasvegas recruiter.com. careerbuilder.com plus i search newspapers.
This is really the only thing I can do to help, to be supportive. I'm sorry if you guys feel that I'm wasting your time, i truly only wanted to hear from people working in the field, to hear the truth instead of the salespitch we were given by his trade school.

Whatever your husband's ideas are about the internet, I humbly suggest that he set aside whatever is bothering him about this venue. More and more, every job will require not only a willingness to use the internet, but in the future, only a full fluency with it will be acceptable. As we move forward, more and more handheld devices that are internet capable will be used in the field. I am on the internet almost daily in pursuit of information I use to do my job.

Additionally, there are many folks who might give your husband more direct advice, but the absence of his presence here could only be an impediment to that process. So, whatever it takes, he needs to present himself, even though it is great that you are helping him out. He needs to be comfortable with this communication style, and be ready, willing, and able to use technology now and in the future.

[fcs]

Whatever your husband's ideas are about the internet, I humbly suggest that he set aside whatever is bothering him about this venue. More and more, every job will require not only a willingness to use the internet, but in the future, only a full fluency with it will be acceptable. As we move forward, more and more handheld devices that are internet capable will be used in the field. I am on the internet almost daily in pursuit of information I use to do my job.

Additionally, there are many folks who might give your husband more direct advice, but the absence of his presence here could only be an impediment to that process. So, whatever it takes, he needs to present himself, even though it is great that you are helping him out. He needs to be comfortable with this communication style, and be ready, willing, and able to use technology now and in the future.

Good advise.

I always ask how well do you do with Computer and the Internet some times even ask them to find a Web site and get a Manuel If they can't then it a no hire, only exception would be if the guy had years of experience and was one of the best in his field and then he would be told he need to learn.

[techswife]

you're both right.............and of course he does have a background in computers as well........he just doesnt have the patience to sit here and do the search work.........I on the other hand have a knack for it. Mind you, give him something technical and he'll happily devote hours to it, and i become a "project widow" *L

[69Stang]

These are the very basics.

#1 his resume. I would recommend posting it here. It makes a HUGE difference. You have to think of his resume as his first impression, misspelled words, bad formatting, etc can kill you before you get a chance.

#2 Dress nice. They always say to dress for the jobs higher than what you are applying for.

#3 Bring a fresh copy of your resume.

As far as experience, I HIGHLY recommend volunteering for a place like Habitat for Humanity, it gives you some experience, shows you care about the community, and there are a TON of contacts involved.

[69Stang]

Just an add on for reasoning:

If your resume is bad, most will assume your paperwork will be bad.
If your unshaven, or not presentable, they figure you wont present their business well.

[techswife]

I would never let him out of the house looking scruffy and he knows it *L, no seriously he dresses very well for interviews, clean shaven, etc dresss slacks and a white shirt........we have seen guys roll up for interviews in torn jeans and shirts........
His resume is pretty decent, but i'd love to post it here for him,where do i do that? I'd also really appreciate feedback on it........

[fcs]

I mean this as food for thought please take it that way
sound like your getting him interviews thats great.
But how well is he interviewing? Is his not being overly involved in the job search showing up in the interview process?

As a new hire the main thing he need to come across as in Dying to work harder leaner more then the next guy.

He needs to come across very very motivated as a new hire with no experience. and I've had guys say my wife found your listing on the web This is a RED flag for me ( i don't mind the say my wife or some type my resume ) but then doing the leg work makes me think about their motivation level true or not it just a RED flag.

JMO

[techswife]

Makes perfect sense, if I find a job for him to apply for once i pass the contact details on to him, its all on him. Im done at that point other than making sure socks match if he gets an interview. I think he interviews well, he loves talking about technical stuff, and has confidence in his abilities. Generally when an employer is polite enough to send him a rejection letter, its positive about his skills, its his lack of experience that kills him. Thats the killer we're finding, he applys for endless "entry level" positions.........that all seem to ulitmately require experience.

[beenthere]

Resumes can be post in the Job Discussion forum.

Its also, the only forum, where email addresses are allowed to be posted.

[techswife]

thank you his resume has been uploaded. I appreciate the help and advice. And yes.......i just typed the thing *L