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  1. #1
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    When does the day start?

    My company always says we should be at our first call at 8:00, which means we usually get to the shop by 7:30 or so get our filters, all the work orders for the day. Pick up any special order parts and extra info we may need regaurding that job, turn in our paper work from the day before. refill our nitro tanks, co2 bottles, change out empty refrigerant bottles.

    We start getting paid at 8:00, but they want us to get all that done and get to our first call by 8:00 than we are on the clock.

    This is the only company I've worked for, Is this the way it is with other companys, or is something wrong with this picture?

    Do you guys get paid for all I listed above?

    When I question things like this where it looks like simply "we are working for free", I am told to be thankful you have a job.

    Don't get me wrong, I am thankful to have a steady job right now but Are we getting takin advantage of just because the economy is bad.

    Any thoughts would be apreciated, or if I do need to be put in my place, thats why I'm asking.

  2. #2
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    You should be on the companies time when you start working at 7:300 at the shop. There are labor laws about this. If you go straight to the job, your time starts at the job site no matter how far away it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickl View Post
    You should be on the companies time when you start working at 7:300 at the shop. There are labor laws about this. If you go straight to the job, your time starts at the job site no matter how far away it is.
    Bingo. If I am working, I am on the clock.

    Working involves anything related to "furtherance of the job". I think I saw that line somewhere and I like it.

    Getting gas in the truck. Not paid.

    Getting filters for the job. PAID!

    Getting breaskfast. Not paid.


    Sounds to me as if you should be paid from 7:30. You are doing company work at that time.

  4. #4
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    Your getting BONED PERIOD!!! I would punch in at 7:30 and start work. If they say no, then start filling and exchanging your bottles at 8:00.

    The company can't (shouldn't) have it BOTH ways.

  5. #5
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    once i get to the office, i'm on the clock

  6. #6
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    We usually start at the shop at 8 am, and are out the door sometime between 830 and 9. You find a way to work that time into your calls for the day.

    Sometimes I am expected to be at a job at 8 am, and have to get filters, etc. at the shop the day before. I work that time into the call the next day.

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    Or get a haircut,pay some bills,take a 2 hr lunch..............
    You sure are cocky for a starving pilgrim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zachhvac View Post
    Or get a haircut,pay some bills,take a 2 hr lunch..............

    so your the guy thats been following me !
    IV IV IX

    use your head for something other than a hat rack.......Gerry

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    The National Labor Relations Board ,when called in will strighten the clock-in time,for the past 3 years,could be costly for the company.

  10. #10
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    12:00 am is when any day starts and to cut to the chase it ends at 11:59 pm. Usually this is taught in school but with budget cuts and overcrowding they may have cut this out of the budget. As for clocking in it when you start company business tuill you end company business. You could start at your first call then go to the office and get you items then go back see how they like that unproductive time. Get ready for this one, If you carry a company cell phone and you recieve calls concerning company business you will have to be compensated for it. Im looking forward to my 24/7 checks....woo hoo thank you Obama this is change I can handle.............NOT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chillpro View Post
    Get ready for this one, If you carry a company cell phone and you recieve calls concerning company business you will have to be compensated for it. Im looking forward to my 24/7 checks....woo hoo thank you Obama this is change I can handle.............NOT.
    Elaborate please. I try to stay up on poly-ticks, but may have missed something. I take many off-hours calls for tech support and other reasons. If I should be getting compensation for this, I'd like to know.

    Thanks in advance.

  12. #12
    We had it pretty much the same as you...7:30 in, loading the trucks, out the door by 8 when the clock starts. Like bad calls in a football game, it balanced out, we'd all meet at Vic's Country Store about 5 miles down the road to pick up the day's cig, drink and snack stash.
    (The wise men of modern thought) adore a god made of putty or of wax - plastic, effeminate, molluscous, with no masculine faculty about him, and no quality that entitles him to the respect of just and honest men, for a being who cannot be angry at wrongdoing is destitute of one of the essential virtues, and a moral Ruler who is not angry with the wicked, and who refuses to punish crime, is not divine. ---Spurgeon

  13. #13
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    I dont know where you are from but in Ontario if you are working ie loading truck, picking up parts driving from the shop to the job and so on you are working and should be paid

    I think you and your co-workers should be getting together and set things straight

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