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  1. #27
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    I started out in the union (1980), moved to another town for the apprenticeship after going to trade shool for two years. Did every thing they asked ,got let go when the foremans brother in law needed another job. He had no training and had been working in maintanance at a beef processing plant. If you want in,and want to stay in you better have a connection because when times get bad the "FNG" is going to get the ax over somebody with a legacy in that local union. Everybody will swear to you that its not true ,but it is. At the core its a fraternal organization and they will protect the people that helped buid it , and thats their right to do so.
    "Paddle faster, I hear banjo music"

  2. #28
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    hi sidecarr......

    Quote Originally Posted by sidecarr View Post
    597 rocks , bull**** on the UA paying a lower wage for aprentaces ,I know non union guys that are great at what they do and have 20 + years in the field ,and dont make as much an hour as a first year apprentice ,because they dont want to join the Union and put the time in , I got in the UA local 597 and took all the classes they had 2 to 3 nights a week for several years ,and when they opened the new school I started to take the classes again, taken some of the classes 3 times . the cool thing about the UA is if you become an aprentice you go to school during part of the week and work with a contractor the rest of the week. and get paid for all your time ,if you get hired by a contractor because you have experince ,you have to take the classes on your own time but, all the Ua classes (in chicago area ,not sure of other areas) are free ,I worked as a nonunion service guy for 13 years b4 I found a place that got me in , during my nonunion time I payed for classes that came nowhere close to the quality of the union classes . Dan Holohan also has a great website. he also does seminars for the MCA in chicago twice a year cost us in 597 $25.00 for them , if you look at his sight his seminars are usually $125 + been to his dead men steam twice , his book lost art of steam heat is a must have
    .....I'm retired 597 and i've said the same thing in different posts almost word for word , where can u get to tear down and learn to service a centrifugal chiller for a small shop fee?? and all the other classes for a small shop fee . the time i spent in their classrooms paid me back in many ways. I never had a boring day in my career with the different stuff i worked on . (some cold shivery days in Jan & Feb on those huge rooftops though)....Jack

  3. #29
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    Work Hard!!

    Work Good!!

    Live Better!!

    Work Union!!

    That is todays reply. Attic was very hot today. Gotta go get cleaned up.
    Local 234
    Have Gauge$ Will Travel

  4. #30
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    it was 72 in the chicago area ,hope we dont get summer during duck season. all you 597 guys should reconise my avitar ,thats the trane sidewinder from the 597 school
    You have to do your own growing no matter how tall your grandfather was

  5. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecarr View Post
    it was 72 in the chicago area ,hope we dont get summer during duck season. all you 597 guys should reconise my avitar ,thats the trane sidewinder from the 597 school
    I dont know when duck season is, but i hope it gets super hot NOW. lol, im missing all the overtime i should be having during the summer. This year has been cold, well below average.

    I'm looking forward to the classes starting up again at the 597 training center..

  6. #32
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    getting sick of maint all summer ,hope I can still troubleshoot its been so long
    You have to do your own growing no matter how tall your grandfather was

  7. #33
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    how is.........

    Quote Originally Posted by y7turbo View Post
    I dont know when duck season is, but i hope it gets super hot NOW. lol, im missing all the overtime i should be having during the summer. This year has been cold, well below average.

    I'm looking forward to the classes starting up again at the 597 training center..
    ............the new training center ??? I retired b/4 i had a chance to see it......Jack

  8. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by rojacman View Post
    ............the new training center ??? I retired b/4 i had a chance to see it......Jack
    well its a few years old now, located in mokena.
    Its a little far to drive, but the classes are worth it. The list for the classes is going to be updated in august, so we all have to wait till then to sign up.

    I think they offer breakfast once a month or something for retired 597 members.. maybe you should look into that and take a tour of the training center if its something you want to see, its a nice place...

  9. #35
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    did u sayfree breakfast!!!!!!

    QUOTE=y7turbo;3953202]well its a few years old now, located in mokena.
    Its a little far to drive, but the classes are worth it. The list for the classes is going to be updated in august, so we all have to wait till then to sign up.

    I think they offer breakfast once a month or something for retired 597 members.. maybe you should look into that and take a tour of the training center if its something you want to see, its a nice place...[/QUOTE]....what time ,i'll be there , thanks for the info mr turbo.ive lost track of the no. of classes i've taken there and can't even begin to imagine how much extra i've earned over my career because of them. it has been a satisfying career , a few bumps along the way with some bad guys running some shops , but when you're well experienced and valuable you can usually tell em to go jump and be left alone . Pension deal isn't bad , for a few bucks a month u can have your wife insured to get your pension for life if u pass before her...........regards.......Jack

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