12-27-2011, 02:55 PM
CAUTION: If a system has fallen into a
contaminated state, the introduction of
CLIPLIGHT's HVACR sealants may
accelerate the overall failure of the
system. Wet refrigerants laden with
moisture or particle contamination can
cause premature set-up of sealant
lowering sealing capabilities and form restrictions in strainer baskets such as
those that exist before a TXV or similar expansion device. The characteristics
of the sealant are such that it can act as a cleaning agent picking up
contaminants/particulate and deposit them in driers and filter screens. It is
therefore essential that a system is clean or has filters installed to help trap
these contaminants so they will not interfere with the performance of the unit.
Whenever refrigerant has been recovered replace system driers. The system
must be evacuated to remove all the non-condensables. This can only be
accomplished by means of the triple evacuation method.
3. PHYSICAL INSPECTION: System should be charged so that superheat and
sub cooling is functioning at peak performance. Condensers and evaporators
should be cleaned including blowers so that proper air/heat exchange is taking
i. Charge system to proper operating conditions.
ii. Check temperature of operating compressor 1 inch or 2.54 cm up
i. LOW REFRIGERANT LEVELS: If the unit has been found to have a
history of refrigerant leaks then a test should be performed to evaluate
if there are non-condensable in the system. Units that are operating
with excessive levels of non-condensable will exhibit higher than
normal head pressures. Where the system has been fitted with proper
isolation valves and pressure ports a comparison between the liquid
refrigerant pressure and corresponding saturation temperature at
ambient conditions can also help to determine if foreign gases are
ii. ACID/ MOISTURE CONTAMINATION: The unit should be checked
using an acid/moisture test kit and followed up with a recommended
clean up procedure, if required. Refrigerant must be recovered and
system evacuated to completely remove all moisture and non
condensable. Always install a new liquid line drier each time a system
is opened up.
iii. BURNOUTS: Systems which have experienced a compressor
burnout and have not under
gone a complete flushing of
contaminants should have the
refrigerant recovered and a
procedure carried out with new
liquid /suction driers installed.
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from base. Readings above 130°F/ 54°C indicates abnormal condition,
repair as required.
iii. Check discharge temperature measured 1 to 2 inches or 2.54 cm to
5.08 cm downstream of the compressor on the discharge line.
Readings above 225°F (107.2°C) indicate formation of contaminants,
repair as required.
iv. Measure temperature across the liquid line drier to determine if a new
drier is required. Temperature differential should be no more than
2°F/1°C. On larger driers temperature or pressure differentials can
vary therefore one should consult with manufacturers specifications to
properly determine what is acceptable.
v. Failure to follow these check points may result in compressor failure.
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12-27-2011, 09:00 PM
Sorry madhat, I gotta call BS on that one!
Originally Posted by madhat
The picture in my avatar is of the Houston Ship Channel and was taken from my backyard. I like to sit outside and slap mosquitos while watching countless supertankers, barges and cargo ships of every shape and size carry all sorts of deadly toxins to and fro. It's really beautiful at times.....just don't eat the three eyed fish....
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01-28-2012, 12:30 AM
+1 The eye of a tornado may be a vacuum but that eye is not located inside the system. I'm not a meteorologist so I may be talking out of my a.
Originally Posted by Cooked
01-28-2012, 04:44 AM
ill keep myself from being mean here....you sir are wrong!
Originally Posted by Cooked
01-28-2012, 08:30 AM
Originally Posted by heater83
What you guys are saying is that a leak, ANY leak, can and will draw Atmospheric air into the system?
What documentation do you provide to back up your claims?
01-28-2012, 09:49 AM
No Venturi effect here. A pinhole in a garden hose is a good example. Unless the system is in a vacumn no air will enter the system.
01-28-2012, 02:22 PM
Never used the stuff. Too scared to try it. All though there have been times where I have been tempted. A pin hole is a pressure point as long as press is behind it. Problem is you are supposed to evacuate the system at start up. So if the pinhole was there from the beginning then air was drawn in during the vacuum process.Air already in the system can be caught by proper driers and so will the super seal. If you change the drier on the system before you add the super seal you still have to evacuate a system with a pinhle in it thus pulling in more air.
01-28-2012, 02:56 PM
Originally Posted by jnsrose
So, the super-super-sealer folks say that we need I add MORE chemicals to the system, namely DRY-R to prevent the problems caused by moisture and super-duper-sealer
By the time you're done adding all of this crap, you'd be better off to find and fix the leak.
02-05-2012, 07:14 PM
Anyone who puts that stuff in a system is crazy
Those sealers fall into two categories the automotive sealers swell the o rings to seal the IMACA fittings on the car and the HVAC leak sealers form a silicate when reacting with air real bad news for a system
Just crazy to use
Can you say Invalidate a warrantee
Clog up an expansion device
Clog yo a drier
02-06-2012, 02:07 PM
LOL now thats some funny shizzle right there.
Originally Posted by madhat
Nice try but I aint buyin it
When i open the valve on my torches ... thats a good size leak until i light it .... you trying to tell me that during the time its not lit , theres a vortex of air entering the bottle via a swirl ?
I wondered what all that noise was !!
Oh hell thats some funny stuff
Maybe if i put a pinole in my Nitrogen tank it will fill itsself back up
Just where did you read that info ????
03-21-2013, 02:37 AM
Ok I'm new here and just wanted to say that Super Seal worked great for me. It does have a use. I was quoted $$$ for a coil on a 1 1/2 ton Trane that was 7 years old because it was leaking refridg out about every 4 months. The Tech showed me the leaks and I told him I would think on it a bit. I wasnt about to fork out $$$$ for a coil when the compressor could quit too in short order so I was looking at a 2 ton system for $-$K. I still wasnt happy so I looked on line and found this stuff. Cost me $$$$. I said what the heck I'm &%$#@* anyway. I had a tech come out and fill her up with R22 and then I added the super seal. It's been a year now and it hasnt lost any refridgerant. Saved me some big bucks when I didnt have it. This will give me time to save up for a new unit too. It May not be for everyone but maybe it will last 20 more years for me...who knows! Oh yeah, it cost me $$$$ to fill it back up with R22...that sucks too.
Pricing isn't allowed
Last edited by jpsmith1cm; 03-21-2013 at 05:21 AM.
03-28-2013, 11:35 AM
i'd rather deal with super-seal than a system that isn't properly marked and may or may not have some percentage of propane in it
03-28-2013, 12:22 PM
"Rail" had a good experience, as many people have. However, there have been many owners who have had bad experiences - as well as the tech's who had to explain the failure somehow.
The sealants are getting better. Right one of my personal vehicals has some sort of sealant fixing the head gasket leak. I hope for my luck to continue after the weather warms up.
I remember reading about a Mexican tech' who saved a semiload of precious seafood with a sealant. If it had been me the compressor would have failed unexpectedly as the same time and then I would have been explaining why I didn't fix the leak instead using the sealant.
Whenever possible, find leaks and fix them as soon as you can. Sometimes they are harder to find than other times. Sometimes you can't find them when they are very small.