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  1. #1
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    not bad mouthing just surprise

    at the supply house today and a ruud rep. is just happy as all get out
    so i asked him whats up he said consumer report gave rheem/ruud best unit to buy in a recent study am shocked,floored, just never thought trane and carrier would be beat when i started 10-11yrs ago trane was the best thing out i havent worked on one in yrs but whats the deal are they better???have they done a 360 while the rest just stayed behind
    Mastic its whats for dinner!

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    Consumer report is not reliable representation of HVAC equipment.


    Do a search you'll see CR was discussed before.
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    How many times must one fix something before it is fixed?

  3. #3
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    Twilli likes it too....Twilli Rheem Top Contractor.
    No Heat No Cool You need Action Fast

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    Consumer report is not reliable representation of HVAC equipment.

    I don't know about that, I think this time they got it right, of course
    Mr. Bill....is a RUUD Top Contractor so he is a tad biased.
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  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by twilli3967 View Post
    Twilli likes it too....Twilli Rheem Top Contractor.
    Geez, I thought you were preferential to Coleman. I wondered how a guy that sells air conditioners for tents was part of the membership committee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thebil Illpay View Post
    Geez, I wondered how a guy that sells air conditioners for tents was part of the membership committee.

    This is how he got to be part of the membership committee.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiMKnW3GYG0
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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    Consumer report is not reliable representation of HVAC equipment.


    Do a search you'll see CR was discussed before.

    Yep, they rated the Amana Energy Command as #1 back in 1983 or 84 and we all know how they turned out!

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    I really like their stuff. Ive put in a few of their mod furnaces in.
    They had a two stage comp out a few years ago.

    Trouble was the local supplier would not be competitive at all.

    I tried to talk to them but they had a salesman that drove 2 hours each way trying to run things.Didnt work out.
    They just lost the dealership to someone else. too late.
    You sure are cocky for a starving pilgrim.

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    Mr Bill! Long time no see...............how the heck are ya man?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyBob View Post
    Yep, they rated the Amana Energy Command as #1 back in 1983 or 84 and we all know how they turned out!

    Twilli says don't hate, even back then Lennox couldn't get a break. Underneath the Pulse and Complete Heat in the junk pile
    No Heat No Cool You need Action Fast

  11. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyBob View Post
    Mr Bill! Long time no see...............how the heck are ya man?

    Twilli says MrBill been real busy and Twilli missed him too. MrBill is famous on H-talk.
    No Heat No Cool You need Action Fast

  12. #12
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    Twilli says MrBill needs to cut back on the work load.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xq6yZGlFm4
    No Heat No Cool You need Action Fast

  13. #13
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    Just to clarify....

    Consumer reports doesn't rate central HVAC units like they do other things be it flooring/grills/vaccumes/ect.

    However what Consumer Reports did do is create a graph that represents repairs done on 11 brands after surveying 32,550 readers who purchased systems between 2002 and 2008.

    "Differences of less than 5 points aren't meaningful" and the graph broke down Rheem and Rudd as having 10%, Trane 11%, American Standard & Bryant 12%, Carrier, Lennox & Amana 13%, York at 14%, and Goodman & Heil at 16%.

    In my opinion it's not an accurate representation of what product is good or bad. Mainly because they didn't survey 1,000 people who installed a York system, then 1,000 people who installed a Rheem system to get these numbers. They just surveyed 32,550 readers who installed a system. Meaning there could be 10 Rheem installs and 2,000 York installs. Percentage wise the more you install the higher likely hood there are going to be problems with the systems.

    Also this survey isn't very clear about "repair". Did these people install a new system and have to call the HVAC company out again to adjust something because it wasn't working right and call it a repair? Did they just buy a house from a builder and call the HVAC company out for repair because it's not working right?

    I'm glad consumer reports made an attempt at helping consumers purchase something as expensive as a HVAC system, but it's a really poor attempt in my opinion, and I'm not a professional just a consumer.

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