mexico is not the answer, besides if the elite have their way mexico canada and the united states will be the north american union under the spp. a little research on the security peace and prosperity talks that took place with bush, vincinte fox and the leaders of canada will support my claims. and it will be easy to usher in when the dollar finishes its crash and burn. folks will be more than happy to take the amero when the fed and the rest of the bankers are done looting the late great US of A
Back to the original thread(not that this other stuff isn't interesting, it is), I see no way they can possibly enforce a fine for not talking to them.Sounds like you will have to fight it though.
There is a private property issue, then to be compelled to give information to someone that is not an active duty police officer( who has to have a legitimate reason to ask), sounds a bit beyond what is legally required of a citizen.
That was all before the current administration. Remember the change people wanted? (not me)
Originally Posted by HVAC9900
looks like I will be going to court
cause I have no intention of answering
If con is the opposite of pro
is congress the opposite of progress?
Are they going to enforce this with all the illeagles? Doubt it. Why is it so difficult for our gov't to enforce illeagle regulations but will go after any and all natural citizens for not taking part in a stupid census? I hate to say it but the gov't regulations are so far out of hand it may be too late to ever recover. I would have never thought we would be forced tell them anything.
i live out in the middle of the woods far away from everything. last census i get home from work and a plain unmarked car with 2 g-men in suits are parked in front of the house.i had not answered the questions on the forms to their satisfaction.they demanded to go in the house and count the number of bedrooms and bathrooms. i told them to get a search warrant and get off my property.they left and sent some new tougher individuals out to demand entry again without a search warrant.they threatened me with fines if i didn't let them in my house. i told them also where to go! the next individuals made the same threats so i gave in and told them how many bedrooms and bathrooms i have but i refused to let them in my house. that was the end of the census experience for me. three harassing visits in the middle of nowhere to get information from me. i have no criminal record , born here,pay taxes,and mind my own business and was treated in this manner? sucks!
Having done 5 or so special censuses between the 2000 Census and now, the census taker is not allowed to observe what race the person is as in past censuses (before 1990, I think). Obama would have a number of choices that he might make. The person must select from a list of racial descriptions what they consider themselves to be. One very annoying response was that many people can not differentiate, as hard as the census taker tried, between country and ethnicity. Dah! There's only white, black, red, yellow and Pacific Islander (not necessarily the exact description of the choices given).
Originally Posted by RoBoTeq
Had a young lady from a specific South American country who was extremely offended by people trying to describe her as Hispanic. By the way Hispanic is NOT the same as Spanish.
So, I guess there is some type of enforcement "they" can use. Whoda thunk it?
Originally Posted by windtunnel
Census workers are subject to some fine like $250,000 or more for discussing specific occupants. Many things are based on the census numbers and input like schools, old age stuff, Congressional Representatives, etc. Besides, don't you want your relatives to be able to see things about you after you are long gone. I believe that they just released the 1930 Census data.
Originally Posted by iron
PS: Did you know that they lost almost all of the Census data for 1890, I think.
The Census Bureau is specifically forbidden from releasing the information gathered to any enforcement agency. Who would agree to answer questions if they could. Census workers are subject to heavy fines for releasing any information they gather or observe. They are even in a tough position if they observe illegal activities while doing their work other than crimes on the street.
Originally Posted by Evolutionizer
The special Censuses I worked in hired translators for a number of foreign languages in order to collect data.
Remember, the Census data is anonymous and supports things like money for your kids schools, Mom and Dad who are retired, health care, etc.
Hell, we have a president who has no respect for government secrets involving national security, you really think anything learned about us will be guaranteed safe?
Originally Posted by jerryd_2008
Government is a disease...
...masquerading as its own cure
Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV
Are you kidding? Look at your pay check stub you are paying for the privelege of working for the government. They make the depts for us to pay for,
Originally Posted by RoBoTeq
Ill just pay the $100.
Desto... its ONE big... not OUR. I didnt make the mistake.
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