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  1. #14
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    spend a couple minutes and fill out your profile and you might find somebody on this board that can help you.

    if you put another Gooman in your home you deserve what you get. you won't be able to find any cheaper equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by james80031 View Post
    In a way, it is their fault, because they market their equipment directly to the homeowners. JMO
    How do you figure that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinner73 View Post
    if you put another Gooman in your home you deserve what you get. you won't be able to find any cheaper equipment.
    your correct about one thing

    Goodman is one of the more inexpensive system's available

    and with a warranty that matches super expensive system's, coupled with the way the economy is theses days

    more and more folk's will be choosing your most unfavorite brand GOODMAN

    so get used to it, and get over it

    and if you choose not to install Goodman, maybe you loose some buisness to your competitor's

    maybe not, but what's the sense in brand bashing?



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    Quote Originally Posted by the dangling wrangler View Post
    How do you figure that?
    Maybe I wasn't real clear. Goodman sells directly to homeowners with no contractor license required. This means that there are alot of installations done in an unprofessional manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by james80031 View Post
    Maybe I wasn't real clear. Goodman sells directly to homeowners with no contractor license required. This means that there are alot of installations done in an unprofessional manner.
    In some states, so does Trane and Carrier.

    Some states (the ones without license laws) prohibit the restriction of sales.
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    How many times must one fix something before it is fixed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by james80031 View Post
    Maybe I wasn't real clear. Goodman sells directly to homeowners with no contractor license required. This means that there are alot of installations done in an unprofessional manner.
    I disagree. It doesn't happen here. If a homeowner walks in to any Goodman location here, they're told to get a licensed contractor. Period. I know this a fact. I've seen it happen. Hasn't this horse been beat to death here?

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    I don't want to make this a long Goodman bashing thing, but internet sales ship them anywhere. Right to the HO doorstep.

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    In states that sell Trane an Carrier, do they at least need a 608 license?

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    It was probably my fault to start this thread as I don't know anything about goodman and it was probably poor judgement for me to start a post blaming the goodman outside.

    I do believe a lot of people associate thing that are inexpensive as not good products. I hear the word cheap used as if something that's inexpensive that it isn't good. Well I'd argue that a honda civic or a toyota corrola is inexpensive compared to a lot of other vehicles, yet their track record shows that they are one of the most reliable cars out there.

    Of course I'd rather save money, but I want to have a good product. I feel it's foolish for people who think just because something costs more that it's going to be better. I will spend the extra money if it's worth it, but I am not yet convienced it's worth it.

    The only reviews I've seen is this JD power review from 2006
    http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/new...df/2006153.pdf

    I checked this website that people can give reviews and the Trane did worse than goodman
    http://www.furnacecompare.com

    So I'm kind of leaning towards goodman as it seems most complaints are that the people who actually installed the goodman, compared to the product itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boneac View Post
    It was probably my fault to start this thread as I don't know anything about goodman and it was probably poor judgement for me to start a post blaming the goodman outside.

    I do believe a lot of people associate thing that are inexpensive as not good products. I hear the word cheap used as if something that's inexpensive that it isn't good. Well I'd argue that a honda civic or a toyota corrola is inexpensive compared to a lot of other vehicles, yet their track record shows that they are one of the most reliable cars out there.

    Of course I'd rather save money, but I want to have a good product. I feel it's foolish for people who think just because something costs more that it's going to be better. I will spend the extra money if it's worth it, but I am not yet convienced it's worth it.

    The only reviews I've seen is this JD power review from 2006
    http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/new...df/2006153.pdf

    I checked this website that people can give reviews and the Trane did worse than goodman
    http://www.furnacecompare.com

    So I'm kind of leaning towards goodman as it seems most complaints are that the people who actually installed the goodman, compared to the product itself.
    It's as good a product as any other, go for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gary_g View Post
    You can still select Goodman. Warranties are excellent. Just make sure that it is professionally installed.
    Re-pasting my previous post.

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    Had a post ready to clicked to review & PC locked up; lost it.

    So will use this example of a review;
    Review:
    I, am a professional heat and air specialist, I service all brands, makes and models. And I have 42 years in service work. You must have proper duct work, proper return air, and proper size wire for any unit. Improper airflow will cause motor problems. And wire too small will cause electrical components, and motors to fail. I still like Goodman, mine is 6 years, no problems, it does a perfect job and is quiet,and cheap to run. Jim Poe, Southeast, MO.

    If replacing with a Goodman, I'd go with 410A; 14-SEER or higher; Copeland Scroll compressor; TXV metering device; & optimize the ductwork & airflow.

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