ua standards 4 excellence

[supertek65]

all ua guys should watch this!

[zw17]

Had it in class about 3mo ago.

The class agreed that it didn't apply to service guys as much as building trades. If I only picked up my cell phone at lunch and breaks I wouldn't have a job the next day.

[supertek65]

Had it in class about 3mo ago.

The class agreed that it didn't apply to service guys as much as building trades. If I only picked up my cell phone at lunch and breaks I wouldn't have a job the next day.

i like how he mentions how we are losing market share to open shops. not allowed anybody in for too long for whatever reason?
basically only letting in sons, cousins etc is my opinion!
now the non union sector is doing our work at half price with little to no benefits!
24% of the ua is baby boomers and not getting any younger!
first and foremost we need welders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE ARE PIPE FITTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
your generation had better be very well trained and be very professional, work hard and be the BEST!


NO
adjusting time!

st65

[zw17]

i like how he mentions how we are losing market share to open shops. not allowed anybody in for too long for whatever reason?
basically only letting in sons, cousins etc is my opinion!
now the non union sector is doing our work at half price with little to no benefits!
24% of the ua is baby boomers and not getting any younger!
first and foremost we need welders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE ARE PIPE FITTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
your generation had better be very well trained and be very professional, work hard and be the BEST!


NO
adjusting time!

st65

In the service side we need to quit outsourcing our work. My shop takes in all the pumps to have seals rebuilt, motors to have bearings put in, why can't we do that? We outsource all our glycol work to a local chemical company, WTF? I have don't glycol for years. It pisses me off to no end to see this work that UA members once did go to outside shops.

[supertek65]

In the service side we need to quit outsourcing our work. My shop takes in all the pumps to have seals rebuilt, motors to have bearings put in, why can't we do that? We outsource all our glycol work to a local chemical company, WTF? I have don't glycol for years. It pisses me off to no end to see this work that UA members once did go to outside shops.

I totally agree!
I change all my own pump and motor bearings!

[heavymetaldad]

In the service side we need to quit outsourcing our work. My shop takes in all the pumps to have seals rebuilt, motors to have bearings put in, why can't we do that? We outsource all our glycol work to a local chemical company, WTF? I have don't glycol for years. It pisses me off to no end to see this work that UA members once did go to outside shops.

i attempt to grab everything that comes this way, giving my 'overload' to the other mechanics to keep us working. but sometimes decisions are made on a different level

[jpsmith1cm]

Had it in class about 3mo ago.

The class agreed that it didn't apply to service guys as much as building trades. If I only picked up my cell phone at lunch and breaks I wouldn't have a job the next day.

Here is the problem.

First off, let me say that I am a UA fitter.

We almost need to have 2 unions. A construction union and a service union.

So much focus in placed on the construction side of the work that we do that we lose sight of the day to day, pay the bills service work.

Construction is too variable and dependant on the vagaries of the economy, as is being seen in the current economic climate. BIG construction projects are farther apart and fewer between.

Meanwhile, service guys, second class citizens in my local, are steadily working, paying the bills and getting none of the respect for it.

[zw17]

Here is the problem.

First off, let me say that I am a UA fitter.

We almost need to have 2 unions. A construction union and a service union.

So much focus in placed on the construction side of the work that we do that we lose sight of the day to day, pay the bills service work.

Construction is too variable and dependant on the vagaries of the economy, as is being seen in the current economic climate. BIG construction projects are farther apart and fewer between.

Meanwhile, service guys, second class citizens in my local, are steadily working, paying the bills and getting none of the respect for it.

Brother, I couldn't agree more. I went to the meeting just tonight, it was 90% building trades and 10% service. They focused on the service side for a total of 5min out of the hour long meeting. We have been and always will be the read headed step child of our local.

Now the economy is in the crapper, the service side of my company is keeping the bills paid, we have no construction projects going on and they just put the service divison on 32's To take it a step further, the 4th year I was working with today got laid off, I went into the office this morning to hand in paperwork and a few full recovery tanks and he was there getting the bad news.

Rough times in Ohio.

[supertek65]

something tells me you will be okay!

Brother, I couldn't agree more. I went to the meeting just tonight, it was 90% building trades and 10% service. They focused on the service side for a total of 5min out of the hour long meeting. We have been and always will be the read headed step child of our local.

Now the economy is in the crapper, the service side of my company is keeping the bills paid, we have no construction projects going on and they just put the service divison on 32's To take it a step further, the 4th year I was working with today got laid off, I went into the office this morning to hand in paperwork and a few full recovery tanks and he was there getting the bad news.

Rough times in Ohio.

[supertek65]

I agree, but you gatta lotta balls puttin it in writing


[QUOTE=jpsmith1cm;2829232]Here is the problem.

First off, let me say that I am a UA fitter.

We almost need to have 2 unions. A construction union and a service union.

So much focus in placed on the construction side of the work that we do that we lose sight of the day to day, pay the bills service work.

Construction is too variable and dependant on the vagaries of the economy, as is being seen in the current economic climate. BIG construction projects are farther apart and fewer between.

Meanwhile, service guys, second class citizens in my local, are steadily working, paying the bills and getting none of the respect for it.[/QUOTE]

[jpsmith1cm]

I agree, but you gatta lotta balls puttin it in writing

Here is the problem.

First off, let me say that I am a UA fitter.

We almost need to have 2 unions. A construction union and a service union.

So much focus in placed on the construction side of the work that we do that we lose sight of the day to day, pay the bills service work.

Construction is too variable and dependant on the vagaries of the economy, as is being seen in the current economic climate. BIG construction projects are farther apart and fewer between.

Meanwhile, service guys, second class citizens in my local, are steadily working, paying the bills and getting none of the respect for it.

Believe me, I cleaned it up for public consumption.

[supertek65]

Believe me, I cleaned it up for public consumption.

[heavymetaldad]

Here is the problem.

First off, let me say that I am a UA fitter.

We almost need to have 2 unions. A construction union and a service union.

So much focus in placed on the construction side of the work that we do that we lose sight of the day to day, pay the bills service work.

Construction is too variable and dependant on the vagaries of the economy, as is being seen in the current economic climate. BIG construction projects are farther apart and fewer between.

Meanwhile, service guys, second class citizens in my local, are steadily working, paying the bills and getting none of the respect for it.

i'll agree with you, but there is strength in numbers