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  1. #24376
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    I only drink home-brew Maxwell House Coffee.

    If there's a bigger racket than $1.50 for a cup of coffee, I want in on it.

    It's a racket all right......but he11 if my kids drink that stuff rather than the crap I swilled down....good on 'em. I wasted 1/2 my life and brains in a bar for 15 years....
    SOB is it hot here in Scottsdale....went for that mountain bike ride yesterday and a inhaled 4 liters of 'drink' and pee'd out about 100ml in 4 1/2 hours, by watch read 107 degF on the way back from the north route....it's like 55 at home right now.......
    The Garmin connect to the ride is http://connect.garmin.com/player/179858431 if anyone wants to play/watch it....

    Bret, buddy, how'd you do in the relay...? How 'bout Andy and Karen.....pictures and lies (I mean 'stories' !!)
    "The quality you deserve is not expensive---it's priceless"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Lockhart View Post
    It's a racket all right......but he11 if my kids drink that stuff rather than the crap I swilled down....good on 'em. I wasted 1/2 my life and brains in a bar for 15 years....
    SOB is it hot here in Scottsdale....went for that mountain bike ride yesterday and a inhaled 4 liters of 'drink' and pee'd out about 100ml in 4 1/2 hours, by watch read 107 degF on the way back from the north route....it's like 55 at home right now.......
    The Garmin connect to the ride is http://connect.garmin.com/player/179858431 if anyone wants to play/watch it....

    Bret, buddy, how'd you do in the relay...? How 'bout Andy and Karen.....pictures and lies (I mean 'stories' !!)
    When I flew a client out to Phoenix back in Spring of '03, the other pilot and I climbed this huge trail up a mountain that looked down on Sky Harbor airport. Man, that was a workout in 100 heat!!!!!
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  3. #24378
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    Howdy Bert,Art and everyone.
    I love the smell of phosgene first thing in the morning:

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    How's the long weekends Art...?
    Ya keeping sane and busy...?

    It's usually the couple of weeks afterwards that are the loneliest and the most dreary....
    Keep yer chin up and pinging in.......
    "The quality you deserve is not expensive---it's priceless"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Lockhart View Post
    How's the long weekends Art...?
    Ya keeping sane and busy...?

    It's usually the couple of weeks afterwards that are the loneliest and the most dreary....
    Keep yer chin up and pinging in.......
    Yes, and yes.

    I have specifically asked for service calls that force me to engage in thinking, rather than pm's that I can do in my sleep. I even had a call this afternoon, between church and choir practice.

    This is going to take time, and lots of it.

    I called Frank last week. Maybe his boss has room for me in a new environment....
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    Yes, and yes.

    I have specifically asked for service calls that force me to engage in thinking, rather than pm's that I can do in my sleep. I even had a call this afternoon, between church and choir practice.

    This is going to take time, and lots of it.

    I called Frank last week. Maybe his boss has room for me in a new environment....
    Art
    Could you not get into flying again?
    It would seem to me to be a way to challenge the mind?
    Do you keep you license(s) up?
    "The quality you deserve is not expensive---it's priceless"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Lockhart View Post
    Art
    Could you not get into flying again?
    It would seem to me to be a way to challenge the mind?
    Do you keep you license(s) up?
    I have been renewing my flight instructor's ticket every two years, but because of the economy, people are not lining up to learn to fly.

    There is a glut of young pilots coming out of Purdue, UND, and Embry-Riddle that are all looking to do ANYTHING, and their parents are willing to pay all their living expenses while they work for next to nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    I have been renewing my flight instructor's ticket every two years, but because of the economy, people are not lining up to learn to fly.

    There is a glut of young pilots coming out of Purdue, UND, and Embry-Riddle that are all looking to do ANYTHING, and their parents are willing to pay all their living expenses while they work for next to nothing.
    I know my buddy's kid did that hauling freight, then Canada Jet running movie stars back and forth from Vancouver to LA and sleeping on cots at the hanger....until he got on with Air Canada.
    Checking prices down here....not unusual to see tradesmen working for $15/hr
    "The quality you deserve is not expensive---it's priceless"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Lockhart View Post
    I know my buddy's kid did that hauling freight, then Canada Jet running movie stars back and forth from Vancouver to LA and sleeping on cots at the hanger....until he got on with Air Canada.
    Checking prices down here....not unusual to see tradesmen working for $15/hr
    A couple of years back, a crew crashed a Dash-8 outside Buffalo.

    The first officer was making $19,000.
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  10. #24385
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    A couple of years back, a crew crashed a Dash-8 outside Buffalo.

    The first officer was making $19,000.
    That was the one that had the woman captain and iced?
    "The quality you deserve is not expensive---it's priceless"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Lockhart View Post
    That was the one that had the woman captain and iced?

    No, I believe the FO was the woman. Captain was a low time (in airline terms) male.

    They were using an ice removal procedure that differs from the procedure that Air Canada uses for the same airplane. If I have time tonight, I will pull up the NTSB report and link it here. I'm not even sure they were faithfully following the procedure that Colgan had in place.

    Ice is very unforgiving in an airplane. The Lear had a "hot wing" so we only had to follow deicing protocols on the ground, before takeoff. It was a real benefit.
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    Good morning, Bret and everyone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    No, I believe the FO was the woman. Captain was a low time (in airline terms) male.

    They were using an ice removal procedure that differs from the procedure that Air Canada uses for the same airplane. If I have time tonight, I will pull up the NTSB report and link it here. I'm not even sure they were faithfully following the procedure that Colgan had in place.

    Ice is very unforgiving in an airplane. The Lear had a "hot wing" so we only had to follow deicing protocols on the ground, before takeoff. It was a real benefit.

    Here you go. The first officer was 24 years old.

    Executive Summary
    On February 12, 2009, about 2217 eastern standard time, a Colgan Air, Inc., Bombardier
    DHC-8-400, N200WQ, operating as Continental Connection flight 3407, was on an instrument
    approach to Buffalo-Niagara International Airport, Buffalo, New York, when it crashed into a
    residence in Clarence Center, New York, about 5 nautical miles northeast of the airport. The
    2 pilots, 2 flight attendants, and 45 passengers aboard the airplane were killed, one person on the
    ground was killed, and the airplane was destroyed by impact forces and a postcrash fire. The
    flight was operating under the provisions of 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 121. Night visual meteorological conditions prevailed at the time of the accident.
    The National Transportation Safety Board determines that the probable cause of this accident was the captain’s inappropriate response to the activation of the stick shaker, which led to an aerodynamic stall from which the airplane did not recover. Contributing to the accident were (1) the flight crew’s failure to monitor airspeed in relation to the rising position of the lowspeed
    cue, (2) the flight crew’s failure to adhere to sterile cockpit procedures, (3) the captain’s failure to effectively manage the flight, and (4) Colgan Air’s inadequate procedures for airspeed selection and management during approaches in icing conditions. The safety issues discussed in this report focus on strategies to prevent flight crew monitoring failures, pilot professionalism, fatigue, remedial training, pilot training records, airspeed selection procedures, stall training, Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) oversight, flight operational quality assurance programs, use of personal portable electronic devices on the flight deck, the FAA’s use of safety alerts for operators to transmit safety-critical information,
    and weather information provided to pilots. Safety recommendations concerning these issues are addressed to the FAA.


    http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/reports/2010/aar1001.pdf

    Computer animation of flight prior to crash:

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