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  1. #21711
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcs View Post
    hi all

    Karen took Andy and I to the Lego store then a few over places.

    Man I hurt today .
    I was visiting with my adult son in Orlando last week and we stopped in a Lego store. WOW! You need to get a second mortgage for some of those kits!
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    Quote Originally Posted by J daHVAC MAN View Post
    my gf is 20 and she was recently diagnosed with cancer and has to get surgery and kemo so i know what you are going threw. hope everything goes well on your end and god bless
    It is terrible how many younger folk are having severe issues with cancer. My step daughter had a cancerous tumor removed at 24 years of age and one of my niece's had to have a double mascectomoy right after giving birth to her first child at 27 years old.
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    What is really sad is that President Nixon declared war on Cancer and since then it has Quardrupled. Also an amazing fact that 42% of Congressmen own stock in the major pharmecutical companies (as stated in Dr. Micheal Cutlers book on Cancer Cures)
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    Quote Originally Posted by icehouse View Post
    What is really sad is that President Nixon declared war on Cancer and since then it has Quardrupled. Also an amazing fact that 42% of Congressmen own stock in the major pharmecutical companies (as stated in Dr. Micheal Cutlers book on Cancer Cures)
    http://landing.easyhealthoptions.com...=&SC=E12199828
    I'm not sure what either of these things have to do with the fact that we are obviously doing something in our lives that is increasing the risks of cancer growth and development. My guess is the chemicals we are putting into our food, water, air, clothing etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    I'm not sure what either of these things have to do with the fact that we are obviously doing something in our lives that is increasing the risks of cancer growth and development. My guess is the chemicals we are putting into our food, water, air, clothing etc.
    True look at Monsanto's involvement in GMO's and if there is a cure for Cancer without radiation and drugs the pharmaceutical companies loose big time and so do there share holders.
    I almost lost my leg to this dreaded disease so I research any and everything.
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    There are several reasons that there is more cancer.

    In order to have cancer, you must first be living.

    More people are living now than ever before. They used to die of other problems, like heart attacks, for example. Now, they live longer, and can get cancer.

    Environmental exposure? I think the environment was more of a problem when I was a kid. Now, the air is so darned clean that we can't even open a manufacturing plant in many places.

    Conspiracy? This is my favorite.

    I believe that nothing that is conspicuous can be hidden. At least, not from everyone. Let's use the UFO phenomenon as an example. The existence of captured or recovered technology is supposed to be a big secret, yet, we keep hearing about it. Guys like Bob Lazar have a lot to say. It matters not whether a lot of people take that stuff seriously. What is important is the concept that most people will not keep things secret if they feel it is important, and that "humanity should know."

    In the case of cancer, if there WAS a cure being suppressed, it would be virtually impossible for the altruistically minded researchers to not be blabbing about it, regardless of how much money is involved. On the other hand, a conspiracy theory makes people feel comfortable, as if to suggest that this disease is NOT an intractable enemy, but has already been conquered, and that it is simply a matter of wretched human greed that keeps the cure from being distributed. That feels much better to us.

    No one could keep that secret.

    So, we will continue to see tantalizing photos and tales of backward engineered technology, and eventually, someone WILL let the rest of that cat out of the bag.

    Unfortunately, there is no cancer "cat" to be let out. At least, not yet.

    When that happens, we WILL hear about it.
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    FYI one of the specialist that attended to me related a true story.
    While working at Memorial Sloan Kettering Center a young intern who was studying at Albert Einstein School of Medicine discovered a cure for a type of Cancer. When Merck pharmaceutical (big cancer drug company) heard about this the intern was sent back home to Israel, scholarship revoked, and all research material destroyed. That is when this Doctor left to go into his own practice, and no he is no fly by night he is also a Professor at New York's Stony Brook School of Medicine. He is also the one that helped me recover from near loss of my leg.
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    The free world had always looked up/at the USA as a representation of democracy and one vote for each person counting for the same as the next. Not sure where or when the departure from values and morals overcame the drive for money, but greed did indeed seem to become less of a moral boundary and more of a minor faux pas.

    Us dumb Canucks don't understand in a 'democracy' why lobbying and corporations can literally buy governments. Hell yes, Canada has a $hitload of crooked politicians too BUT only individuals can 'contribute' to a candidate or political parties. It is illegal for a company to do so.

    All businesses are important and although the pharmaceuticals have an important job as do the oil companies, they have taken over NA and my feeling is that of Bob's in that many, many 'irregularities' have happened .... always to the pharmaceuticals' benefit.

    The triumphant loss of the pharmaceutical company to 'patent' a woman's own genes on March 30th is an icon representation of their crossing of moral boundaries to the Nth extent.

    We just have had a huge wave go through Canada last week tying food dyes to ADHD, and ADD. When about 90% of the kids affected were taken off of 'processed foods', within 2 weeks they were 'normal' and sitting in class and advancing remarkably.
    My first level of disbelief in this sort of 'greed over ethics' was when I was a snot nosed teenager being told the Vietnam War was being prolonged because arms manufacturers had a large inventory to get rid of.....

    Well.......here we are 40 years later still trying to find WMDs.....as far as 'cat' waaaaaay too many things suppressed in the last 50 years in the name of 'profit/greed' for there not to be a cat.....most sane people would agree to that.....otherwise, why does there need to be three secretive investigative branches of the government.....or is that 4 now?

    And then if anyone watched 60 minutes tonight......there's the banks.....lovely people.....so benevolent....
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    Quote Originally Posted by icehouse View Post
    FYI one of the specialist that attended to me related a true story.
    While working at Memorial Sloan Kettering Center a young intern who was studying at Albert Einstein School of Medicine discovered a cure for a type of Cancer. When Merck pharmaceutical (big cancer drug company) heard about this the intern was sent back home to Israel, scholarship revoked, and all research material destroyed. That is when this Doctor left to go into his own practice, and no he is no fly by night he is also a Professor at New York's Stony Brook School of Medicine. He is also the one that helped me recover from near loss of my leg.
    OK, lets say this happened, oh, five years ago. Just for discussion purposes.

    The young intern returns to Israel and goes right to the Sourasky Medical Center. He tells of his experience, and is welcomed into a cancer study team. he easily recalls the moment of his discovery, and the nature of the work being done at Sloan. The team replicates the studies in which the Merck program was engaged. And today, thanks to his work, human testing is well under way for a cure for that type of cancer.

    What, you mean that isn't happening?

    Nope. It's not.

    It's a great story. However, with no patentable work (you said the papers were destroyed) Merck could not keep any young intern from recreating that area of study, and arriving at that same conclusion independently.

    That's the reality that we have. When that changes, as I said, we WILL hear about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Lockhart View Post
    My first level of disbelief in this sort of 'greed over ethics' was when I was a snot nosed teenager being told the Vietnam War was being prolonged because arms manufacturers had a large inventory to get rid of.....

    Well.......here we are 40 years later still trying to find WMDs.....as far as 'cat' waaaaaay too many things suppressed in the last 50 years in the name of 'profit/greed' for there not to be a cat.....most sane people would agree to that.....otherwise, why does there need to be three secretive investigative branches of the government.....or is that 4 now?

    And then if anyone watched 60 minutes tonight......there's the banks.....lovely people.....so benevolent....
    First, I hope that your capacity has advanced well beyond that if an impressionable snot nosed teen. I know that I have, because I now consider the agenda of the person telling me such delicious lies as conspiracies to suppress cures and large inventories of weapons.

    The weapons used in Viet Nam were in continuous production, so it was not prolonged to deplete an inventory. The war was a misguided attempt to prevent the spread of Communism.

    As for the banks, let me give you the thumbnail portrait.

    1) In the Carter administration an act was passed called the Community Reinvestment Act. It was another welfare program to help rehabilitate neighborhoods left blighted after Americans in poor neighborhood rioted, and scared off the employers that used to provide jobs for those folks. After the riots, welfare was increased to become an entitlement based on race, and later, for a larger number of poor whites, as well.

    2) In the Clinton administration, Attorney General Janet Reno, along with the House and Senate banking committees, strongarmed banks to lend to borrowers that normally could not qualify for loans. This led to the creation of the Subprime Loan.

    3) Did banks make money on the subprime loans? Sure, that's what you do when you have money and lend it. You charge interest and fees. And, they did. The existence of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac allowed for mortgages to be sold by the banks to these Government Sponsored Entities, who bought them and created Mortgage Backed Securities. When the loans in those securities failed, the securities became worthless, and they became the Troubles Assets in the TARP program.

    So let's review.

    1) Community reinvestment act (government)
    2) Janet Reno threatens banks (government)
    3) Subprime loans created (banks)
    4) Mortgages sold to Government Sponsored Entities (government)
    5) Failure of the Subprime mortgages (people who should not have signed for the mortgage)

    Now, in that list, the "banks" appear once.

    I think you get a much more clear picture, now.
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    Good morning, Bret and everyone.
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    Art, if you've got EVERYTHING figured out in the world, WTF are doing looking for work? When I first got in the trade I used to hate ice machines behind the bar as you always used to have some unemployed, uneducated blowhard telling you all about it and how to fix it while they swilled back cheap draft beer......just saying......since you seem to know ALL agendas.....
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    morning all

    man I tell you this pollen has my nose running and Eyes bruning big time
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