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  1. #18201
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    Ray,
    Best I can say is keep your head up, your eyes and ears open and you WILL get a job. Once you do, bust your a$$ twice as hard as anyone else around you. People will notice you and, eventually, come to appreciate your work ethic and knowledge.
    GREAT ADVISE
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    Ray,

    I've been very fortunate in this industry.

    I started at a company 15 years ago as a dumb-$hit, know nothing tool b**ch. Had a top-notch journeyman to show me the ropes and give me a dead solid foundation in the basics of refrigeration.

    I worked my azz off from age 19 to show everyone around me that they made a good investment in an idiot kid that didn't know anything about refrigeration except that if you put warm beer in and waited a while, it magically got cold.

    15 years later, I am one of the "go-to" guys at that same company. Some days, I swear, I spend more time on the phone dispensing advice and solving other peoples problems than I spend with wrenches in my hands.

    I wish I had a hard-luck story to share, but I don't.

    Best I can say is keep your head up, your eyes and ears open and you WILL get a job. Once you do, bust your a$$ twice as hard as anyone else around you. People will notice you and, eventually, come to appreciate your work ethic and knowledge.
    Truer words never spoken..... as in "Nothing in this world can take the place of Persistence.
    Talent will not; nothing is more commonplace than unsuccessful men with talent.
    Genuis will not; unrewarded genuis is almost a proverb.
    Education alone will not; the world is full of educated derelicts.
    Persistence and Determination alone are omnipotent."
    "The quality you deserve is not expensive---it's priceless"

  3. #18203
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    Doug, you've posted that in the past.

    Is it your own words or is it a quote?

    I really like it and am thinking of working it into a short presentation for my cub scouts and I'd like to be able to credit the author if possible.

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    Thanks for the advice guys. I worked my butt off there this summer. I got references from both the lead tin banger and lead heat pump guy. All they have bad to say is I slept in one day where I set the alarm clock to PM by accident. I was only a few minutes late and made sure to let the shop know I was on my way.

    Plus my journeyman says that I should take this as an opportunity to go learn commercial or refrigeration. I've always wanted to try refrigeration. Looks like I might get the shot to.
    Get money, get paid.

  5. #18205
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    Quote Originally Posted by RayD8630 View Post
    Thanks for the advice guys. I worked my butt off there this summer. I got references from both the lead tin banger and lead heat pump guy. All they have bad to say is I slept in one day where I set the alarm clock to PM by accident. I was only a few minutes late and made sure to let the shop know I was on my way.

    Plus my journeyman says that I should take this as an opportunity to go learn commercial or refrigeration. I've always wanted to try refrigeration. Looks like I might get the shot to.
    Refrigeration is a necessity.

    Air conditioning just keeps shoppers happy.
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  6. #18206
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    Quote Originally Posted by RayD8630 View Post
    Thanks for the advice guys. I worked my butt off there this summer. I got references from both the lead tin banger and lead heat pump guy. All they have bad to say is I slept in one day where I set the alarm clock to PM by accident. I was only a few minutes late and made sure to let the shop know I was on my way.

    Plus my journeyman says that I should take this as an opportunity to go learn commercial or refrigeration. I've always wanted to try refrigeration. Looks like I might get the shot to.
    Where's your CV?
    "The quality you deserve is not expensive---it's priceless"

  7. #18207
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    Refrigeration is a necessity.

    Air conditioning just keeps shoppers happy.
    DING! DING! DING!

    We HAVE a winner.

    In certain, quite limited applications, air conditioning is a necessity. Mostly for computer applications and medical applications.

    You lose refrigeration for an hour or so and people can get sick and DIE! Simple as that.

  8. #18208
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    Doug, you've posted that in the past.

    Is it your own words or is it a quote?

    I really like it and am thinking of working it into a short presentation for my cub scouts and I'd like to be able to credit the author if possible.
    God no.....I ain't that intelligent....it's Calvin Coolidge.....but I bought a T-shirt about 20 years ago with it on it and was having trouble gluing and pasting pieces together with my first DRSA so it helped me 'keep my nose to the grindstone' so to speak...
    It's the opposite of the majority of society these days.....don't tell Sunshine but his and the majority of us old farts still 'sticking to our principles' is NOT very common these days....'just flip this house', survivor type get to the finish line first no matter how' is just the way of the world.....it seems....at least for some.....
    I may never be rich and God knows I have a jaded past but I refuse to lie, cheat or steal to make a living......
    "The quality you deserve is not expensive---it's priceless"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Lockhart View Post
    God no.....I ain't that intelligent....it's Calvin Coolidge.....but I bought a T-shirt about 20 years ago with it on it and was having trouble gluing and pasting pieces together with my first DRSA so it helped me 'keep my nose to the grindstone' so to speak...
    It's the opposite of the majority of society these days.....don't tell Sunshine but his and the majority of us old farts still 'sticking to our principles' is NOT very common these days....'just flip this house', survivor type get to the finish line first no matter how' is just the way of the world.....it seems....at least for some.....
    I may never be rich and God knows I have a jaded past but I refuse to lie, cheat or steal to make a living......
    Thank you, Doug.

    Don't sell yourself short, you're a pretty smart guy.

    I was talking with my wife about something that I'll post about in a minute and she paid me one of the highest compliments I've ever gotten:

    "You are the most stubborn man ever to breathe." Her words.

    I could only nod and smile.

  10. #18210
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    Refrigeration is a necessity.

    Air conditioning just keeps shoppers happy.
    We are heading for a 'double dip' pretty soon here....I think we all agree on that....
    Back in 2001 when 9/11 hit and the USA put the 31% tariff on our lumber going south, Vancouver Island about died. I have never in 35 years seen it thaty &^$@$%^&*f u=ing bad..... The thing that compounded it was that I had switched from a service to a sales based company with GHP being the focus. With oil still being relatively cheap, we lost all our commercial property and almost lost our home with DC just coming on line for the first release....the BTD1000....
    My advice guys....FWIW....sales are the first to go....a client will spend $4000 repairing a system rather than buy a new one for $5000.....and that $4000 is a $hitload of labour.....
    Get into a company the does commercial refrigeration service work ahead of the 'dip' and you'll be tight...but you'lll be fine...

    Wait and see how busy Frank, TB, JP etc will be in around Jan....!!!!
    "The quality you deserve is not expensive---it's priceless"

  11. #18211
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    Dilemma

    Had an issue at one of my stores last weekend. Consumed many hours of my time on the phone while I was at scout camp with my family and then took a 15 hour bite out of my Sunday when I should have been home resting.

    Technical details can be found here: http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=648811


    Now, on to the part that is bugging me and the part that I'd like to throw in front of the court.

    I dispatched 2 different techs to the job. One on Friday night and a different one twice on Saturday and once on Sunday before I went myself later Sunday morning.

    By Sunday, Tech #2 is calling the Service manager and, basically, complaining that this piece of equipment is "beyond his ability to repair"




    Can any of you guys here IMAGINE saying that about ANYTHING?

    Hell, I'd jump off the roof headfirst before admitting that I couldn't do my job, yet this joker called the boss and basically admitted that he was incapable of fixing the unit.

    Heck, it was only $50k worth of frozen foods on the line. It can wait for JP to come fix it, right?



    So, what do you DO with someone like this? I mean, I can't MAKE him learn, I'm not authorized to fire his a$$ which is what probably SHOULD happen to him, and I can't legally SHOOT him.


    What says the court?

  12. #18212
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    Doug's right.

    I stay busy year-around.

    If I'm not running service, I'm doing PM work to make next summer go easier. Not sure I'd have survived this summer without the PM work I did last winter.

  13. #18213
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    i like that saying also!

    i would like it even better if i knew what omnipotent meant?


    Truer words never spoken..... as in "Nothing in this world can take the place of Persistence.
    Talent will not; nothing is more commonplace than unsuccessful men with talent.
    Genuis will not; unrewarded genuis is almost a proverb.
    Education alone will not; the world is full of educated derelicts.
    Persistence and Determination alone are omnipotent."
    I WILL SELL WORK,GENERATE BUSINESS, GO GET NEW CUSTOMERS!
    YOU SHUT THE HELL UP AND QUIT RUNNING YOUR MOUTH!

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