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  1. #18188
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Lockhart View Post
    He made his money in medical investments......probably wrote the Obamedical Doctrine....???
    Actually, much of the Obamacare bill was written a long time ago, by the Tides Foundation.

    http://www.tides.org/tides-foundation/index.html

    This was a document that was a result of the thinking of an elite committee of "progressive" (read: socially liberal, big government folks) and they were merely waiting for the opportunity to have it signed into law.

    You didn't think that a document that large could be written in a few weeks, did you? Nope. Most folks didn't know, and still don't know what is in it. That's why Pelosi said "we have to pass the bill to find out what's in it."

    Find out, indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RayD8630 View Post
    The company I was at refused to do geothermal. Said its too much work. Least I got to do a service call on one and try and find a leak.

    We installed one...well we did the controls and duct work. We subcontracted the water side.

    Someone else said it earlier...I was sheltered.
    Yah $hit what progressive company would want to start doing state of the art heating that would allow you a higher profit margin, less competition, better professional image, allow you to attract and train a better level of techs and secure you worker's as well as your own company's future?????
    That'd be … insightful eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    Actually, much of the Obamacare bill was written a long time ago, by the Tides Foundation.

    http://www.tides.org/tides-foundation/index.html

    This was a document that was a result of the thinking of an elite committee of "progressive" (read: socially liberal, big government folks) and they were merely waiting for the opportunity to have it signed into law.

    You didn't think that a document that large could be written in a few weeks, did you? Nope. Most folks didn't know, and still don't know what is in it. That's why Pelosi said "we have to pass the bill to find out what's in it."

    Find out, indeed.
    It was funny when Pelosi was in Ottawa, after her scolding Canada for three days about our Dirty Oil from the TAR sands (God's largest oil spill), someone waited for the cameras to be shut off to remind her Canada is the single largest supplier of oil and natural gas to the USA and IF it was too dirty for her and all the USA that although Canada preferred to make less and supply it's long time friend/neighbour BUT china was willing to take her share and everything else we could produce. !!!!!!! Man is she short sighted.....she also shut up for the balance of the trip.
    "The quality you deserve is not expensive---it's priceless"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Lockhart View Post
    Yah $hit what progressive company would want to start doing state of the art heating that would allow you a higher profit margin, less competition, better professional image, allow you to attract and train a better level of techs and secure you worker's as well as your own company's future?????
    That'd be … insightful eh?
    I have to agree with Doug on this one, Ray. Geo and solar are the technologies of the future. Many companies won't get on that bandwagon now, as many are in their "I'm about to retire" phase of their existence.

    However, for a young company with a young owner, geo and solar are the way to go.
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    Doug, since you work with geo, I have a question. I asked the water furnace guy at Comfortech, and he did not know.

    What is the technical barrier that is delaying the ability of taking a geo source and making water that is 160 degrees for radiators and baseboards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    Doug, since you work with geo, I have a question. I asked the water furnace guy at Comfortech, and he did not know.

    What is the technical barrier that is delaying the ability of taking a geo source and making water that is 160 degrees for radiators and baseboards?
    I have a patent application almost filed to address that but it's essentially an oil breakdown problem in the cylinder/flanks from heat. We are producing 170 degF water from that BCS system where we had custom built units from a haywire design of mine.......next unit will be a 190 degF unit. I confirmed friday that all the parts are on their way.
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    Hey gang. Well one door closes and another opens. Looks like the wholesaler in town needs someone. Also looks like a couple companies might need some people. So fingers and toes crossed I'll nab something. Even if it's a counter job it won't give me hours but it will keep me going in the industry. And I'm sure someone will stop in looking for a block 1....maybe lol.
    Get money, get paid.

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    g'morning.......
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    you'll find something, rayman...........
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    Good morning, Bret and everyone!

    Ray, you present yourself well. I'm sure something will turn up for you.
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    Moring all

    having a good guy weekend with Andy Karens Gone till Monday.
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    good luck Ray
    If you help others then you are a Success

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    Ray,

    I've been very fortunate in this industry.

    I started at a company 15 years ago as a dumb-$hit, know nothing tool b**ch. Had a top-notch journeyman to show me the ropes and give me a dead solid foundation in the basics of refrigeration.

    I worked my azz off from age 19 to show everyone around me that they made a good investment in an idiot kid that didn't know anything about refrigeration except that if you put warm beer in and waited a while, it magically got cold.

    15 years later, I am one of the "go-to" guys at that same company. Some days, I swear, I spend more time on the phone dispensing advice and solving other peoples problems than I spend with wrenches in my hands.

    I wish I had a hard-luck story to share, but I don't.

    Best I can say is keep your head up, your eyes and ears open and you WILL get a job. Once you do, bust your a$$ twice as hard as anyone else around you. People will notice you and, eventually, come to appreciate your work ethic and knowledge.

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