OUR DEAR FRIEND HAS CANCER FCS

[supertek65]

good to see you bubbzzzzzzz!!!!!

[jpsmith1cm]

Got to play with a neat thing today.

It's being called a "Non-compression cascade system"

Basically, a thermosyphon.

The rack system runs a plate heat exchanger. In the secondary side, there is refrigerant that is condensed by the plate HX, separated through a phase separator. The liquid runs down into the coils (no metering device), boils off.

The vapor rises back up, through the phase separator and back into the plate HX.

All flow in the secondary is natural. No pumps or other means to move fluid.

All in all, a pain in the A$$ because you have to add a little gas and wait for it to react. Slow, painful and tedious, but there are 2 of them running happily away after today.

[Doug Lockhart]

Got to play with a neat thing today.

It's being called a "Non-compression cascade system"

Basically, a thermosyphon.

The rack system runs a plate heat exchanger. In the secondary side, there is refrigerant that is condensed by the plate HX, separated through a phase separator. The liquid runs down into the coils (no metering device), boils off.

The vapor rises back up, through the phase separator and back into the plate HX.

All flow in the secondary is natural. No pumps or other means to move fluid.

All in all, a pain in the A$$ because you have to add a little gas and wait for it to react. Slow, painful and tedious, but there are 2 of them running happily away after today.

Sounds similar to the old KeepRite Q-pipe system...

[jpsmith1cm]

Sounds similar to the old KeepRite Q-pipe system...

Never seen one, nor have I heard of it.



I DID, however, discover that the 1200 does just as AWESOME of a job measuring approach temperature as it does measuring superheat.

[Doug Lockhart]

Never seen one, nor have I heard of it.



I DID, however, discover that the 1200 does just as AWESOME of a job measuring approach temperature as it does measuring superheat.

What refrigerant did they use?

Here's the heat pipe....basically individual pipes part filled with refrigerant and the outgoing heat boils it and it ascends up the tilted pipe to the cold air stream which condenses and it runs back down to the the 'hot' side....again
http://www.industrialair.com.au/docu...a_brochure.pdf

[jpsmith1cm]

In this case, 404a on both sides of the system.


The biggest pain is charging it. There is not a good and clear-cut method for determining the charge for the secondary side.

They call it "trial and observation"

I call it "gas it and guess"

[jpsmith1cm]

Now that I read through that, I have seen a heat pipe, once.

I have no idea if it was working or not as I had no real idea what I was actually looking at nor did I have any real idea of how to test it.

[Doug Lockhart]

Now that I read through that, I have seen a heat pipe, once.

I have no idea if it was working or not as I had no real idea what I was actually looking at nor did I have any real idea of how to test it.

Delta Ts only across each coil

[jpsmith1cm]

It just seems too simple.


Of course, the simplest answers are nearly always the best.

[supertek65]

SUHWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

Got to play with a neat thing today.

It's being called a "Non-compression cascade system"

Basically, a thermosyphon.

The rack system runs a plate heat exchanger. In the secondary side, there is refrigerant that is condensed by the plate HX, separated through a phase separator. The liquid runs down into the coils (no metering device), boils off.

The vapor rises back up, through the phase separator and back into the plate HX.

All flow in the secondary is natural. No pumps or other means to move fluid.

All in all, a pain in the A$$ because you have to add a little gas and wait for it to react. Slow, painful and tedious, but there are 2 of them running happily away after today.

[fcs]

SUHWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

was think the same thing.

But it's much more fun when you don't have a customer looking at you wanting it up ASAP and also getting ready to b!tch about the bill

[fcs]

busy 2 days

[Doug Lockhart]

busy 2 days

You and Karen been in bed for 2 days with a case of whipped cream, a 20 litre can of mazola oil and matching bowling balls....?
You dirty pig you??!!!!

[jpsmith1cm]

You and Karen been in bed for 2 days with a case of whipped cream, a 20 litre can of mazola oil and matching bowling balls....?
You dirty pig you??!!!!

I've got a dirty, dirty mind, but I just cannot think of anything you would do in bed with whipped cream.

[timebuilder]

Good morning, Bret and everyone!

Just what I needed to start off...thoughts about my whipped cream days......

[fcs]

You and Karen been in bed for 2 days with a case of whipped cream, a 20 litre can of mazola oil and matching bowling balls....?
You dirty pig you??!!!!

mazola oil Baby Oil

[fcs]

I've got a dirty, dirty mind, but I just cannot think of anything you would do in bed with whipped cream.

think HARDER

[fcs]

Good morning, Bret and everyone!

Just what I needed to start off...thoughts about my whipped cream days......

well you work with nyour hands

[fcs]

Morning all

[Bubbleheadski]

Damn guys with brains in the gutter!!! Sheesh............. oh heck... now I remember my whipped cream days.... and chocolate and oh never mind. You guys just ruin my train of thought!

Howdy all!