OUR DEAR FRIEND HAS CANCER FCS

[jpsmith1cm]

hello my good metrosexual limp wristed canuck friend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Do you think most guys do side jobs?
do you think they do a few a year?
do you think when they do, they use your truck, gas and or some of your material?
I think that a lot of guys do side work!
I have been doing this for 26 years, I have done two side jobs, both I did for good friends and both I traded labor for, no profit!
I did use the company truck both times and told the boss both times!
He said to put 20 bucks in the tank!

What this guy did was dishonest and he really took advantage of a pretty decent guy!

As a business owner, how do you feel about the side work?
would it be okay if the guy approached you with it first?

just curious?

I won't do a lot of side work.

First off, I'm not good enough with sheetmetal to make a job look even half professional.

Second off, I'm the kind of guy that wants to take ownership of sa job that I do. If it breaks, I'd need to be there to make the repairs. Hard to do that when you're running service the way I do.

It is a lot easier to explain these things to people who look for me to do side work, refer them to a good friend that is in business and move on.

[heavymetaldad]

I don't do side work.
The way stuff is made nowadays, you'll go broke defending yourself, even if you're innocent.
Plus, I don't have the time to do siders. I'll just do more O/T

[heavymetaldad]

and as JP stated, I'll refer the interested party to someone that can handle it properly.

[supertek65]

is that what your wife tells you when you want some- chika bow chika bow woww!

and as JP stated, I'll refer the interested party to someone that can handle it properly.

[supertek65]

with out putting a lot of thought into this!
and forgetting that i am a union worker and side job would be against the rules and quote "RAT"! not my opinion just quoting!
I would think if I was the boss and a guy wanted to do some side work?
I would most likely tell him to slip me a c note and fill up the tank?
but I am not an owner so that may seem wrong to a business man?

[Doug Lockhart]

with out putting a lot of thought into this!
and forgetting that i am a union worker and side job would be against the rules and quote "RAT"! not my opinion just quoting!
I would think if I was the boss and a guy wanted to do some side work?
I would most likely tell him to slip me a c note and fill up the tank?
but I am not an owner so that may seem wrong to a business man?

Just got in from a service call where the union electrician scabbed his Dad's house while he was being paid at the School Board. In the heavily unionized area I'm in.....90+% of the scabbed moonlight jobs are done by 'Mill rats' who get 4 days off in a row and sneak out an hour (or more early) when at work. God help you if an 'outside contractor' without his 90# of paperwork shows up on their site while they are playing hide and go seek with the foreman....

Don't mind the guys doing side jobs for family and friends but if they use and/or break my stuff they need to pay for what they use....

[supertek65]

yeah, I kind of thought you would be a cool boss!

I have a good idea that the Canadian pipe trades union UA is funding a lot of our national UA pensions!
I read that the Calgary training center had over one thousand first year apprentices!
This year my local had 90 which is the biggest class in decades!
the last couple classes were 40-60!

Just got in from a service call where the union electrician scabbed his Dad's house while he was being paid at the School Board. In the heavily unionized area I'm in.....90+% of the scabbed moonlight jobs are done by 'Mill rats' who get 4 days off in a row and sneak out an hour (or more early) when at work. God help you if an 'outside contractor' without his 90# of paperwork shows up on their site while they are playing hide and go seek with the foreman....

Don't mind the guys doing side jobs for family and friends but if they use and/or break my stuff they need to pay for what they use....

[Doug Lockhart]

yeah, I kind of thought you would be a cool boss!

I have a good idea that the Canadian pipe trades union UA is funding a lot of our national UA pensions!
I read that the Calgary training center had over one thousand first year apprentices!
This year my local had 90 which is the biggest class in decades!
the last couple classes were 40-60!

I've got a buddy of mine that worked his apprenticeship in the dockyards in Halifax so he's TQ'd Pipefitter, TQ'd Plumber, 4th class stationary Steam and Marine steam... He worked for me before he went to Fort McMoney.....he is just a hair under $300,000.00 income this year and we're at par now with your money so thems is real dollars....
Not bad for a 50 year old tradesman packing around nothing heavier than a clipboard.

Those F(*&^ing Oil Sands are sucking up EVERY tradesman in Canada. They have 2 charter flights a week right into Fort McMurray from Newfoundland...!!

A typical tradesman with over 5 years after his TQ is about $150-200,000/yr plus/plus/plus....but the weather last week was -48 degC !!!

[supertek65]

WOW!
that is totally awesome!

I could go up there for one year and pay my house off!

I've got a buddy of mine that worked his apprenticeship in the dockyards in Halifax so he's TQ'd Pipefitter, TQ'd Plumber, 4th class stationary Steam and Marine steam... He worked for me before he went to Fort McMoney.....he is just a hair under $300,000.00 income this year and we're at par now with your money so thems is real dollars....
Not bad for a 50 year old tradesman packing around nothing heavier than a clipboard.

Those F(*&^ing Oil Sands are sucking up EVERY tradesman in Canada. They have 2 charter flights a week right into Fort McMurray from Newfoundland...!!

A typical tradesman with over 5 years after his TQ is about $150-200,000/yr plus/plus/plus....but the weather last week was -48 degC !!!

[timebuilder]

Good morning, Bret and everyone!

[fcs]

I Never have charged for "side work" I've help a lot of people out NO CHARGE, other then they had to some how help Some else in need. Helping other is what makes life meaning full.

Screwing your employer just makes you a thief.

What do I want Andy to Learn, Strong Work Ethic, and with that I mean if you make $3.50/hr you give it 110%. To only work hard if they pay you more makes you a whore. And if you have a chance to make an extra $50 bucks versus helping someone in need, the right thing is to help someone in need.

JMO

[Doug Lockhart]

I Never have charged for "side work" I've help a lot of people out NO CHARGE, other then they had to some how help Some else in need. Helping other is what makes life meaning full.

Screwing your employer just makes you a thief.

What do I want Andy to Learn, Strong Work Ethic, and with that I mean if you make $3.50/hr you give it 110%. To only work hard if they pay you more makes you a whore. And if you have a chance to make an extra $50 bucks versus helping someone in need, the right thing is to help someone in need.

JMO

Bret,
I surely hope that your, Art's and others in the world who GIVE of themselves rub off on the rest of us....to get us FROM the Survivor Mentality to the Habitat for Humanity/Giving of themselves. We are defined and set out our lot in life by our embedded integrity...
True happiness does not come from 'stuff or money' but from how you define yourself by what you do for your fellow man....

That being said......sorry 'bout the trouncing of your Junior hockey team yesterday.... We're going for gold today with the Russians...

[timebuilder]

In that case, please kick the ruskies in the hindquarters for us.

Of course, our hockey team is mostly Canadians, n'cest pas?

[Doug Lockhart]

In that case, please kick the ruuskies in the hindquarters for us.

Of course, our hockey team is mostly Canadians, n'cest pas?

No, not with the Juniors.......it's neat that way they are all 'native' Muricans, Canucks, Swedes, Czechs, Russians etc.....
PURE hockey.....and full of heart.

[monkeyman#1]

Just stopped by to say hey to all......................soooooo..............Hey

[heavymetaldad]

WOW!
that is totally awesome!

I could go up there for one year and pay my house off!

let's go franz!................ could use a bonanza.............

[supertek65]

I am in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Helen sure as hell would never even know if I was gone!

let's go franz!................ could use a bonanza.............

[heavymetaldad]

I am in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Helen sure as hell would never even know if I was gone!

yeppers................
got to do something different with the direct deposit............ need it to be there when we get back. instead of POOF!

[supertek65]

somebody just asked me what scale is??

I said I dont know I think it is $XXXX an hour?

one of the other fitters said no it is $4 an hour more than that!

I do not know or even care!

Helen gets the mail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yeppers................
got to do something different with the direct deposit............ need it to be there when we get back. instead of POOF!

[heavymetaldad]

somebody just asked me what scale is??

I said I dont know I think it is $XXXX an hour?

one of the other fitters said no it is $4 an hour more than that!

I do not know or even care!

Helen gets the mail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

scale where?