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  1. #27301
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joehvac25 View Post
    Lol pretty rough! I must have tore down my first engine at 13 and by 16 I was building a 57 Chevy pickup, I was a certified mechanic and was about to go to school for it. I got a temporary Hvac job, my stepdad was a master plumber and ran jobs around here. I guess I'm more of an Hvac guy now but still like to get into motors and stuff. I grew up around a lot of mechanics so that helped for sure, doing a basic carb cleaning may not be to hard but you can mess up a lot more then you fix if your not careful! Go out and buy a beater and tear it down!
    Yep, tried that, too. Bought a cheap push-mower and ripped it apart, cleaned every part and put it all back together.

    Still didn't work.

    I wasn't really out anything, but I didn't really gain anything, either.


    When I started in this trade, most didn't expect me to make it. I didn't know how to turn wrenches or screwdrivers. I was a bit of a nerd in school and was really on an academic track before I got a sniff of girls and college was O-VER!

    It took a few years, but I managed to get the hang of tools in my hands, but theory is still my strongest point and I think that it always will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    Yep, tried that, too. Bought a cheap push-mower and ripped it apart, cleaned every part and put it all back together.

    Still didn't work.

    I wasn't really out anything, but I didn't really gain anything, either.


    When I started in this trade, most didn't expect me to make it. I didn't know how to turn wrenches or screwdrivers. I was a bit of a nerd in school and was really on an academic track before I got a sniff of girls and college was O-VER!

    It took a few years, but I managed to get the hang of tools in my hands, but theory is still my strongest point and I think that it always will be.
    Women ruin everything, them and a good time kept me away from any books, but I was the opposite, always turning wrenches. Don't feel bad my last lawnmower I couldn't get running either lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joehvac25 View Post
    Women ruin everything, them and a good time kept me away from any books, but I was the opposite, always turning wrenches. Don't feel bad my last lawnmower I couldn't get running either lol!
    I couldn't live without the woman across the room from me right now.

    I've largely given up on being an engine mechanic. Not that important to me, anymore. I just don't think that it's in the cards for me.


    I'll make any refrigeration system sit up and purr, though, so I guess that counts for something..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    I couldn't live without the woman across the room from me right now.

    I've largely given up on being an engine mechanic. Not that important to me, anymore. I just don't think that it's in the cards for me.


    I'll make any refrigeration system sit up and purr, though, so I guess that counts for something..
    Ya my wife saved me from a life of poor choices for sure. Your definitely no slouch on the reefer side, and it counts for more because a mechanic is poverty level wages as far as I know. It's better to master one than be half ass at them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joehvac25 View Post
    Ya my wife saved me from a life of poor choices for sure. Your definitely no slouch on the reefer side, and it counts for more because a mechanic is poverty level wages as far as I know. It's better to master one than be half ass at them all.

    There are a lot of guys here who have made the leap from auto mechanic to HVAC mechanic.

    I'm thinking that there's a substantial wage difference, too.


    Some days it would be nice to know more than just how to change oil and brakes, but I'll take what I've got and pass it on to my boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    There are a lot of guys here who have made the leap from auto mechanic to HVAC mechanic.

    I'm thinking that there's a substantial wage difference, too.


    Some days it would be nice to know more than just how to change oil and brakes, but I'll take what I've got and pass it on to my boys.
    My older brother is a mechanic and I always made quite a bit more than him. Brakes and oil changes go a long way and will most likely be all they need unless they get the urge to learn more. My 2 year old will lay under his big wheel and push cars and act like he's wrenching, I don't even know where he would learn that lol

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    Auto mechanics typically charge little more than half of what refrigeration mechanics charge and they have to invest more in tools, space and operating expenses. Knew a truck mechanic who went into refrigeration at the age of 33 and never looked back. One of the top guys in the shop, too. Real smart cookie.

    A refrigeration mechanic can also pass on skills that are transferable to auto-mechanical systems. Electrical work is a big one. As long as the kid knows what a relay does, how to crimp, how to splice and how to use a mm, (s)he'll never have to bend over for any auto-electrical work. In my case, it's more about the workmanship. I like to splice, solder and then use high shrink ratio adhesive-loaded tubing to make sure all my electrical connections are secure from mechanical stresses and the elements.

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    'Morning Bret and everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joehvac25 View Post
    Women ruin everything, them and a good time kept me away from any books, but I was the opposite, always turning wrenches. Don't feel bad my last lawnmower I couldn't get running either lol!
    I started with electric motors at 5 and gas at 11.

    Let me tell you a secret: there are a large number of lawn mowers in service out there that were not, IMHO, designed to be repaired. If I recall, this is an engine by Tecumseh, with a strange carb that does not lend itself to tear-down. There is a primer bulb on the side. I own one of these reprobate mowers.

    In order to prime it effectively, I have to turn the mower on its left side (carb down) and hold it for a count of at least 6. Set it back down now. Then, when if fires on the rope pull, it will continue to run. It's a diaphragm carb, and if I knew of a bowl carb that would fit the application, I would have replaced it years ago. To me, it does not make sense to put a $80 carb on a $120 mower!!

    Many years ago, I had to concentrate on small engines because it was the only job I could find when I left radio and the choo choos. They are not difficult, but they have their own quirks.

    1) Is there spark? You can use a tester or a spark plug, grounding the shell on the head. If there is no spark, make sure you don't have a grounded ignition, since this is how most mowers are "turned off," using a grounding switch. Older stuff (20+ years) use breaker points, modern is electronic. Like with cars, the likely suspect is a module.

    2) compression? You have to feel the shaft fighting you on the roipe.

    3) fuel? A shot of starting fluid to the air cleaner can make it act like it wants to start. If it seems to improve, you have no fuel to the cylinder, or too much.

    There are a couple of basic books that any of you can use. Like HVAC it's science, but not rocket science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joehvac25 View Post
    Ya my wife saved me from a life of poor choices for sure. Your definitely no slouch on the reefer side, and it counts for more because a mechanic is poverty level wages as far as I know. It's better to master one than be half ass at them all.
    Having been a starving mech, I know the problem.

    It is the remnant of the car culture.

    There are any number of young guys who have an interest and at least a minor aptitude for cars. There is a LARGE pool of these kids, so wages offered are low. A chain shop expects to go through a number of these kids in a year, and they regard the wage as a 'training wage." Few if any shops will pay a good wage to a good mech, because the guy that OWNS the shop is the "good mech," and he needs minions, not masters.
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    Good morning, Bret and everyone!
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    Good morning, Bret and everyone!
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    'Morning Bret and everyone. Not going out this week because I already missed 2 days of work last week and if I missed any more time, the money'd be getting tight.

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