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    Quote Originally Posted by adamste81 View Post
    my original post was about would it be hard to find a job with 3 small tatoos on my forearm. I think its interesting how this post has taken off like it has, and gone way beyond what I thought it would. I do appriciate everyone taking the time to reply but I do want to say this. Whoever said that tattoos are associated with drugs, jail and alchoholism is completly ignorant. That is like saying every white man who shaves his head is associated with the skinheads and the neo-nazi movement.........they are both complete generalizations and ignorant statements
    Thank you for taking what I said completely out of context and calling me ignorant.

    What I said was: "This isn't to say that everyone with tattoos is a crackhead. But in my experience, it seems as if those with the most tattoos also happen to have criminal records and a history of substance abuse."

    I work in Vegas (Sin City), there IS a direct correlation between the number of tattoos my co-workers have and a history of crime and/or substance abuse. You can't call me ignorant until you've worked in this town around these types of people. I have and I'm going by what I see.

    You don't see many accountants, teachers, or police officers with tats all over their body. Why should the skilled trades be any different? Perhaps the reason why techs are so poorly paid compared to some other professions is because we're viewed as uneducated rednecks. The customer's perception of tradesmen needs to change in order for us to be taken seriously. This is the very reason why kids are pressured to go to college rather than trade school.

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    Well, here is the reality. Like it or not Tattoos attract the lower class...why it is who knows, but it does. Go to a tattoo shop, they all sort of have the drug aura around them.

    Sure there are many successfully people with lots of tattoos, but they are in the minority. People will judge on first impression.

    When I ran service, I kept certain "clean" uniforms, I polished my work boots, earing's came out, etc...

    Its just the way it is. At 42 I know who I am, but others do not and first impressions mean a lot. All my tats are covered with a short sleeve shirt, but I find it hard to believe anybody would give you a hard time over two small tattoos. A full sleeve would be a different story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    When you show up at a customers door, they don't think "you," they think "them."

    And, that's the problem with tattoos. To not recognize that would be truly ignorant.
    Very good point. One of my guys has some ink from when he was in the army. If it was jailhouse tatoos, he wouldn't be one of my guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvac r us 2 View Post
    Well, here is the reality. Like it or not Tattoos attract the lower class...why it is who knows, but it does. Go to a tattoo shop, they all sort of have the drug aura around them.

    Sure there are many successfully people with lots of tattoos, but they are in the minority. People will judge on first impression.

    When I ran service, I kept certain "clean" uniforms, I polished my work boots, earing's came out, etc...

    Its just the way it is. At 42 I know who I am, but others do not and first impressions mean a lot. All my tats are covered with a short sleeve shirt, but I find it hard to believe anybody would give you a hard time over two small tattoos. A full sleeve would be a different story.
    You are a very savvy guy. You are able to deal with a situation and perceptions where you have no control, and you are able to adapt and flourish.

    For life, that's one of the "major" skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhoIsThat? View Post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisoc...ality_disorder
    Now it gets interesting.
    CEOs are generally sociopaths, so if the tattooee somehow manages to get hired and happens to be a sociopath, he might become the company CEO. The trick is to get through the front gate, so to speak.

    The Mask of Sanity is a classic book on this subject, and I think the airline passenger who climbed on top of the drink cart and did something very offensive was an example. The cart had to be declared a bio-hazard.
    "fantastic and uninviting behavior, with drink or without"
    I'm not sure that David Korten's opinion is based on a peer reviewed study. Without the correct parameters, a study could confuse elements of the disorder with the goal oriented drive to succeed and lead. Becoming a CEO requires a number of behaviors that are foreign to the psychopath, such as empathy. If the CEO could rise through the ranks to the top position with no interaction with others, he might go undetected. Now such a rise would be especially difficult with the type of routine testing and tasks associated with management positions, such as DISC testing, to name a simplistic example.

    Perhaps body art represents a desire to conform to a sub-group of non-conformists. Ironic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    Becoming a CEO requires a number of behaviors that are foreign to the psychopath, such as empathy.
    No.
    Empathy ^ sales \/.
    Lying ^ sales ^
    It's a business.
    Charming but ruthless = a perfect CEO.
    Think Junk Bonds from a few decades ago and peanut butter products today.

    And, sorry to say, according to DSM IV there is also a connection between arsonists and firemen.

    BTW, in Sin City you could have
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_bias
    but you still may be right.
    Las Vegas is definitely not a random sample of people. They are probably more attracted to risk than others, for one. Looking for a high? Easily bored?

    There also may be some overriding factor that causes both crime and tattoos.

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    Playing devils advocate

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaCool View Post
    Very good point. One of my guys has some ink from when he was in the army. If it was jailhouse tatoos, he wouldn't be one of my guys.
    Playing devils advocate
    I am not for tattoos in any form but lots of people make mistakes and a second chance could help them from making another.

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    Tattoos = the devil!
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    You are a very savvy guy. You are able to deal with a situation and perceptions where you have no control, and you are able to adapt and flourish.

    For life, that's one of the "major" skills.
    Why thank you! I think I do have a good understanding, its hard...even I tend to stereotype people with tattoos based on the tattoos. It's there, like it or not.

    I do think there is a world of difference if you have a tattoo of say your fathers military emblem, or a picture of a naked girl getting gangbanged by Popeye and the Grim Reaper while smoking a bowl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tie Strap View Post
    Tattoos = the devil!

    Are you serious?
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    No, I'm just playing around. This thread is getting to serious
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tie Strap View Post
    No, I'm just playing around. This thread is getting to serious
    tell me about it!!! Its great though i love getting everyones opinion on this, it is very interesting. to be honest i never though i would get 4 pages of replies and over 600 views but hey looks like i did a good job posting this.

    as far as the low class thing about tattoo shops you are totally correct. that is a true statement. it sucks but thats the way it is. and yes, incase any gave a sh*t about this I do regret about 60% of my tattoos....i was 17 and 18 and thought i knew it all....now at 27 i know i was a dumbass

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tie Strap View Post
    No, I'm just playing around. This thread is getting to serious

    LOL You had me going there....
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