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    Quote Originally Posted by EugeneTheJeep View Post
    My Daughter has been in the trade working with me for over 4 years. Another local woman was looking for a job as well, and she works for a refrigeration manufacturer.
    I know a very knowledgeable woman that works for a major part manufacturer.

    Also know an engineer that works for a Rack Manufacturer.




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    15 yrs give or take, the hvac news did an article asking what was wrong w/ the industry due to low women ratio.

    I figured the type environment was a deterrent to them. Was reading "economic facts and fallacies" and in the chapter on gender inequality he pointed out that women tend to gravitate to jobs w/regular/ planned hours- the opposite of what we are in the field.


    When I heard about the Google thing, I wondered what in the company may have brought this to be a discussion, policy making, issue of the day at lunch, etc. I also wondered if the e-mail referenced a scientific study or was it just talking out of his head?
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    The Google email was the result of a desire for a discussion about diversity. The writer opined that the participation of women in tech was because it was not something to which they gravitated. Since that is true, he was fired. You re not allowed to say what is true. Only what makes people feel good about themselves.
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    most men in the trade are complete aholes. My wife endured alo t of bs from said aholes.

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    Personally I have no problem with female techs. And to be honest we take care of a few mechanic shops where then repair tractor trailers. One of said shops has 2 female service techs and there seem to be zero problems.


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    I worked with a female technician years ago, and she could work circles around most of the guys there.

    She caught a lot BS from a lot of the guys in the shop; they would complain that she wasn't strong enough or she brought a lot of drama to the job.
    In reality, she got a helper for the exact same jobs the guys got a helper for, and they were much bigger drama queens that she ever was.
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    I remember a story told by a woman carpenter about the first job she was on. She heard some of the mumbling going on but soon it was break time. Part way through break she asked "Hey, I started my period, does anyone here have a Tampon?"
    Everyone laughed and after that all was well. It's a big deal on the job if one can take a joke. If the guys can be like they always are and not need to be on good behavior it helps ease things along.
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    There's a place for them teach them

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    there's a place for them,, yea in the kitchen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toocoolforschool View Post
    there's a place for them,, yea in the kitchen.
    Seriously?


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    Everyone should be able to succeed or fail based on their own merits.

    There are at least three female techs in Az. That I know of.
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    Are men and women equal? Heck no and I for one am glad of that fact. Now If she can do the same job, get the same results (fixed) in the same amount of time, with the same quality (high) then I agree we should both be paid the same for the work.

    This isn't about strength and how much physical abuse you can withstand. It's about teaching someone how to troubleshoot, diagnose errors and fix the equipment. Those are all learned skills. Once apon a time I was a starting center and offensive tackle in football, wrestled heavy weight. Did pretty good in both. I could leg press over 1000 lbs, bench press better than 500, military press over 400. I was a monster and have the scars on my knuckles to show just what brute force could do. Now that those days have done their damage I can still do the same work, just as quickly and am better skilled but I have learned how to substitute mechanics, levers, lifts and rigging for where the brute force used to get me before. Again these skills can be taught and for sake of some some of you young guys you may want to learn protect your joints, before you have arthritis in the knees, ankles, shoulders, hips, and hands. It would have saved me a lot of pain now that I'm over 60.

    Are females equal? No! Can they be taught the skills to succeed including how to handle the boys? Yes I have taught several.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Answer-Man View Post
    Are men and women equal? Heck no and I for one am glad of that fact. Now If she can do the same job, get the same results (fixed) in the same amount of time, with the same quality (high) then I agree we should both be paid the same for the work.

    This isn't about strength and how much physical abuse you can withstand. It's about teaching someone how to troubleshoot, diagnose errors and fix the equipment. Those are all learned skills. Once apon a time I was a starting center and offensive tackle in football, wrestled heavy weight. Did pretty good in both. I could leg press over 1000 lbs, bench press better than 500, military press over 400. I was a monster and have the scars on my knuckles to show just what brute force could do. Now that those days have done their damage I can still do the same work, just as quickly and am better skilled but I have learned how to substitute mechanics, levers, lifts and rigging for where the brute force used to get me before. Again these skills can be taught and for sake of some some of you young guys you may want to learn protect your joints, before you have arthritis in the knees, ankles, shoulders, hips, and hands. It would have saved me a lot of pain now that I'm over 60.

    Are females equal? No! Can they be taught the skills to succeed including how to handle the boys? Yes I have taught several.
    Completely equal, no. But I have worked along side some very intelligent women who have been able to teach me things I didn't know.

    Example...

    I had a customer with some equipment that I wasn't exactly sure how to diagnose one particular item on it. Found out a Controls specialist was on site at that location that worked for that customer hat knew about that item and I High tailed it to the location to ask some questions of her. Learned a lot and made a valuable friend in the Industry.

    Now could she do the same lifting I could? Probably not...

    But she was smart, and made me smarter in the long run.

    So who was the better one at that moment?




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