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02-09-2009, 07:40 PM #1
You Guys Were Too Much, I Got A Guy To Do It For Half
Two years ago, we condemned a Goodman 80% in an attic. We bid it but never heard back. Today I got a call for no heat only to arrive and find this:

That's odd, this appears to be a 90% GoodMana. It's also butchered in, badly. The electric is being supplied by a chopped off extension cord. It's not even secured to anything, just hanging there. There's no drain trap on the furnace as required by Amana. In fact, the furnace is so close to the attic floor that the trap CAN'T be installed. The ductwork is a mess. Check this out:

The return trunk runs alongside the back of the furnace and takes the turns as shown. Also - note the stack pipe that's been taped over instead of properly capped. The HWT still vents into that 8" stack, and the return is not sealed, so when that tape dries up and falls off, flue gases can recycle.
Also (not shown), no intake pipe on it, so it burns attic air. It's also in an unconditioned space, so if it shuts down in below freezing weather the drain is going to freeze."Why must I lose to this idiot?!"
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02-09-2009, 07:57 PM #2
At least they used a rubber grommet for the L/V wiring.

Looking through the filter rack, did they cut out the bottom and just lay the unit on the deck. Or is that the insulation??Sometimes when I consider what tremendous consequences come from little things, I am tempted to think there are no little things!
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02-09-2009, 08:26 PM #3
Hey, I said we will beat any price. I never said we did a good job.
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02-09-2009, 08:26 PM #4
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no drip leg
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02-09-2009, 08:28 PM #5
I like the union before the shutoff and no drain pan. That a sweet job pay you now or a little more later!!
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02-09-2009, 08:31 PM #6Karst means cave. So, I search for caves.
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02-10-2009, 12:56 AM #7
They should have used the "furnace cement" to plug up that vent, instead of tape! It would have been good to go!
I thinks she needs some "freeze-on"
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02-10-2009, 02:37 AM #8
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I dont see a problem
, you get what you pay for
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02-10-2009, 04:12 AM #9
Think they'll be the next hvac company on "This Old House" .
Did it have an inspection sticker?GO DAWGS!
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02-10-2009, 09:08 AM #10
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ive heard that before!
its a good thing the h/o called you back!
i hope they dont think they got a good deal!
it just makes me wonder how low ballers stay in operation?
even the major operations are slashing prices to compete!
it seems like we are the only ones pricing high end systems here!
you ALWAYS get what you pay for!
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02-10-2009, 09:20 AM #11
[QUOTE]=HVAC9900;2457342]Think they'll be the next hvac company on "This Old House". QUOTE]
That's funny, ture and funny
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02-10-2009, 07:42 PM #12
I am glad I have found the time to come back here ( hvactalk). I couldn't even dream some of this up. Incredible. There is no pan to speak of there.
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02-10-2009, 07:53 PM #13
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That doesn't look too good, to say the least.
What was the reason for no heat? Did you notify the owners--not that they'd necessarily care--of the problems, safety issues included?


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