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    Am I Getting Duped?

    AC Blowing 65 degrees for a few days when 75 inside & outside so called for service. He first said pressure was running high and would reduce freon? until pressure comes down and maybe that will lower the temperature. Then he comes in and says he found a leak in a small coil of copper tubing in the air handler. He showed me and I heard the leak as well. looks like tubing may have been rubbing since there was a depression where the leak was and it was resting against an aposing tube. I asked if he could solder it and he said maybe so I left him to try the repair. Then he comes in and says he can’t contain all the Freon in the compressor because one of the valves is not closing.

    My question is since the system was not cooling well for days, could a leak have been blowing that hard when he showed it to me, or possibly the two pieces of copper were somehow sealed together until he removed the access panel and somehow touched them? Even so I can’t blame him for an aging system.

    Moreso im wondering why he couldn’t solder the copper. If the valve to contain the freon was broken, couldnÂ’t he just have stored it in a recovery tank, then depressurized to fix the leak, then re-filled it.

    Also why was the pressure high if there was a leak?

    Thanks in advance for your guidance!

    Ben

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    He should have been able to recover the refrigerant into a tank, if he had a clean, evacuated tank he could put that refrigerant back when he was done, if not you would need new refrigerant. As far as soldering the leak, depending on which tubes it was if it was a distributor or capillary tube, those are so small that they can be hard to seal the leak without filling the bore of the tube. There are tricks that can be done to do it but it is still a delicate operation. The leak was there whether he spread the tube apart or not.

    My question is how did it go from being high on pressure to having a leak, those are generally opposites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BNME8EZ View Post
    As far as soldering the leak, depending on which tubes it was if it was a distributor or capillary tube, those are so small that they can be hard to seal the leak without filling the bore of the tube. There are tricks that can be done to do it but it is still a delicate operation. The leak was there whether he spread the tube apart or not.
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    The high pressure is what confuses me the most. He was there about 20 minutes before he shows me the high pressure, and there was nothing connected to his gauges. Possibly he overfilled it then removed them?

    If that’s the case, he may have caused the leak in the aging copper. When he showed me the leak he said he will need to replace the evaporator unit. That’s when I asked if he could repair it, and he paused for a second then said maybe. He called his manager to get approval. Got the ok so I went inside

    Few minutes later he asks me to come out and shows me the valve won’t close (it’s turming but not going down) and says he will need to remove 8 pounds of Freon and replace it, and it may not be worth spending that much money only to find out the solder repair may not work.

    He left so his office could put together all the options for me.

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    We don’t discuss legal disputes
    We also don’t discuss prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenSko View Post
    The high pressure is what confuses me the most. He was there about 20 minutes before he shows me the high pressure, and there was nothing connected to his gauges. Possibly he overfilled it then removed them?
    I doubt he did that.

    Quote Originally Posted by BenSko View Post
    If that’s the case, he may have caused the leak in the aging copper. When he showed me the leak he said he will need to replace the evaporator unit for about $. That’s when I asked if he could repair it, and he paused for a second then said maybe.
    No he did not create the leak...Sometime we can repair these places, it's not easy, and no guarantee it will work.



    Quote Originally Posted by BenSko View Post
    Few minutes later he asks me to come out and shows me the valve won’t close (it’s turning but not going down) and says he will need to remove 8 pounds of Freon and replace it for $, and it may not be worth the risk of spending that much money only to find out the solder repair may not work.
    Yes! sometimes these valves malfunction...personally I don't see anything he did wrong, unless trying to help you was wrong.
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    Removed the legal question - I understand.

    Mostly wanted some affirmation something was not right with this situation. Thank you for the advice.

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    This site has some strange rules. One is that we do not allow pricing as it varies around the globe second is we do not give/assist/mention any help for legal decisions.

    The site rules makes this clear. I can't stress this enough. If you ask about legal once again I will remove your account and this thread. Neither we or our members will not be drawn into a legal battle. We are not lawyers and can't answer legal questions.

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    There are some battles that you should choose to not fight....and I believe that this might be one of them. That's not legal advice, that's just good lifestyle advice.

    What you should do is have your situation review reviewed by a second, competent contractor who has been recommended to you by a friend who has used that contractor, and has good things to say about their competence.
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