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  1. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by HVAC_Marc View Post
    It's because they're still power stealing thermostats and do crazy things with "reading" power on the wires.
    I think this is the reason NEST does not work with most zone panels...

    However from the view of a professional in the industry...
    The 'why' does not matter...

    My job is to provide QUALITY and DEPENDABLE products to my customers...

    Obviously NEST does NOT fit that description...
    Regardless of how much $$$ has been spent to massage the (fake) image of a NEST stat.

    Not gonna even mention the $$$ spent to massage other images...

    We really need to get away from buying things because they are cool...
    And return to buying things because they WORK!
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    I've had 3 nests that I've installed on 3 different systems never had any issues yet all work as expected. Personally I like them. Pricey yes but easy set up and easy app for HO to use. I do know they don't like rolling blackouts and I'd recommend a whole house surge protection. I also like the carrier core thermostats.


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    Ecobee is better


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    Seeing as you posted the name of it why not tell us what makes it better then the nest thermostat

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkovack View Post
    Ecobee is better


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    I too have heard this. can you please elaborate a bit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkovack View Post
    Ecobee is better


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    Quote Originally Posted by pctech View Post
    Seeing as you posted the name of it why not tell us what makes it better then the nest thermostat
    In my experience, Ecobee is easier to set up, easier to understand, easier to maintain, and if there's a problem their tech support people speak English and know what they are talking about.
    Experience - knowing when to get the hell out of the way and plug your ears. "Don't be a sissy. Turn it on!"
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    They were originally geared towards contractors. The ecobee 3 has remote sensors in the box and it does averaging.

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    The tech support reps speak English that would do it for me

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    This is gonna be a bit blunt...

    If one person says Ecobee is better...
    And I am a contractor that wants to provide quality service...
    Then would it not be smart for me to make the effort to investigate Ecobee and determine if it IS indeed better...
    Rather than just ask for an opinion?

    After all... the opinion I get may not be good for me!
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    I am a certified nest installer by the way......

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkovack View Post
    I am a certified nest installer by the way......

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    I looked into that...

    Decided the NEST crowd was not the crowd I wanted to convert into my long term clientele list...

    Seems folks who are attracted to bright and shiny objects...
    Are difficult to explain the details to...
    And if the details do not favor their 'pet' bright and shiny object...
    Then it is all YOUR fault.

    Brings to mind a sales call a while back...
    Guy understood heating and AC... had most of the details figured out...
    Literally 100% of the things he wanted... were things my company normally does.
    HOWEVER...
    Guy was dead set sold on doing home automation around the NEST products...
    And wanted language in my Proposal guaranteeing the NEST would work with the new system. I explained the problems with NEST and that I could make the system work... however if the thermostat did not work... the system would not magically make up for the short-comings of the NEST...
    He basically wanted me to guarantee a NEST he bought on the internet.
    When I refused to do that...
    (For this customer... the whole HVAC system revolved around the NEST... the bright and shiny object... ).
    He went with someone that would...
    Got a Goodman system... and less than 3 months later... it broke.
    Guy called me... I asked him where his contractor with the NEST guarantee was... he said his phone was disconnected.
    There was a pause...
    He told me there was a warranty on the system, for me to come fix it for free.
    I reminded him the installing contractor does the warranty... and again asked him where that guy went...
    He hung up.

    So do I really want customers like that???
    No thanks... grin!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    I looked into that...

    Decided the NEST crowd was not the crowd I wanted to convert into my long term clientele list...

    Seems folks who are attracted to bright and shiny objects...
    Are difficult to explain the details to...
    And if the details do not favor their 'pet' bright and shiny object...
    Then it is all YOUR fault.

    Brings to mind a sales call a while back...
    Guy understood heating and AC... had most of the details figured out...
    Literally 100% of the things he wanted... were things my company normally does.
    HOWEVER...
    Guy was dead set sold on doing home automation around the NEST products...
    And wanted language in my Proposal guaranteeing the NEST would work with the new system. I explained the problems with NEST and that I could make the system work... however if the thermostat did not work... the system would not magically make up for the short-comings of the NEST...
    He basically wanted me to guarantee a NEST he bought on the internet.
    When I refused to do that...
    (For this customer... the whole HVAC system revolved around the NEST... the bright and shiny object... ).
    He went with someone that would...
    Got a Goodman system... and less than 3 months later... it broke.
    Guy called me... I asked him where his contractor with the NEST guarantee was... he said his phone was disconnected.
    There was a pause...
    He told me there was a warranty on the system, for me to come fix it for free.
    I reminded him the installing contractor does the warranty... and again asked him where that guy went...
    He hung up.

    So do I really want customers like that???
    No thanks... grin!
    I get calls every year around Christmas lol. They get an extended warranty if i install it. Helps with SEO

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