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    Confused about global warming

    I gotta admit, this global warming thing that is causing us to completely change our way of living and working and playing and advancing has got me confused. Maybe some of you guys and gals can help me with a few questions;

    Now, I have come to understand some of the differences between global warming and global cooling. For one, global warming of .74 degrees celsius over a 140 span is much more of a factor then a miniscule fraction of a degree of global cooling over a years time. After all, decimal points create a greater sense of urgency then do fractions of a whole number.

    Also, I have come to understand that while global cooling is only an insignificant affect of the much more disasterous global warming, global cooling should not be taken into consideration at all when it raises it's ugly head in the middle of a global warming period.

    One other thing that bothers me; If El Nino regulates global warming and La Nina regulates global cooling, why don't we just do what we do best and design regulators for these two little water currents? We could rule the world as HVAC dictators. We would have climate doing our very bidding for us; too many air conditionerss manufactured? Turn up the pressure on El Nino!
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    Don't frett yourself

    Do not be deceived my friend. Those who want to control your attitudes and behaviors, or more simply want your money to go to their cause, will adopt a reason for why you should accept their belief and do what they want you to do and give to what they want you to give to, will find a reason for what is happening and what you should do about it!!!!
    Now wasn't that simple?

    Oh what a tangled web we weave,
    When first we practise to deceive!
    Sir Walter Scott, Scottish author & novelist (1771 - 1832)

    All of this seems to be the devise of liberal thinking, are you a LIBERAL thinker?

    No matter what we throw into the atmosphere, it will either cause heat to be held into the atmosphere or reflected into space.
    The experts seem to ignore the effects of the oceans on what they want to blame the current atmospheric trend.
    I would guess they are forgetting that God promised that there would be seasons no mater what we do.

    Is this any help with your delema?
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    The end of the world is in 2012.

    Why worry about global warming now.
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    could it be that the earth is getting closer to the sun causing global warming?...

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    Believe what you want. it was below zero a few days ago and yesterday was over 60....something's up. this isn't normal...plus a $hitload of snow already. i remember using my snow thrower a few times a year..thinking i wasted my money. twice a week lately. could Al be right?

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    Global warming may be a reality.
    But, is it because of man. Or is it because it is a natural process that happens every X thousand of years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    Global warming may be a reality.
    But, is it because of man. Or is it because it is a natural process that happens every X thousand of years.
    ...or, is whatever might be happening, heating or cooling... open to being changed by a few carbon credits, electric cars, and some solar panels?

    I'd say that if we believe that we are so powerful to be the cause of all this, we are deluding ourselves. This is the opening that China and India need to clean our clocks, as we become our own economy's worst enemies.
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    The Earth has been going thru heating and cooling cycles for billions of years. Man can't stop it, control it, or start it. The Earth will be around, doing just fine, long after Man is ancient history. If you bought a flourescent lightbulb, or changed your dish detergent in order to save the planet, email me, I've got a can't fail investment opportunity for folks like you...
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    If you bought a flourescent lightbulb, or changed your dish detergent in order to save the planet, email me, I've got a can't fail investment opportunity for folks like you...
    Do you know of anything else which offers a 100% return on investment?

    Basic energy efficiency pays off, whether climate change is caused by burning fuels or not. Energy is not free - neither is pollution once health care costs are taken into consideration.
    General public's attitude towards our energy predicament: "I reject the reality of finite resource depletion and substitute it with my own; energy is infinite, we just need an alternative storage medium to run the cars on. The economy can grow indefinitely - we just need to "green" everything! Technology is energy! Peak what?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by tunnel_rat View Post
    The Earth has been going thru heating and cooling cycles for billions of years. Man can't stop it, control it, or start it. The Earth will be around, doing just fine, long after Man is ancient history. If you bought a flourescent lightbulb, or changed your dish detergent in order to save the planet, email me, I've got a can't fail investment opportunity for folks like you...

    Agreed look on past highs/lows for your areas, you'll notice that they were about 100 years apart. There is nothing we can do for global warming/cooling. This whole scare is a perpetuated myth started by someone that unfortunately received a Nobel Prize for doing NOTHING but also is one of the primary owners of a "carbon credit company" that he profits from by preaching the idea. Its past time for Americans to step away from the Kool-Aid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    The end of the world is in 2012.

    Why worry about global warming now.
    What happens in 2012 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Worthingt View Post
    What happens in 2012 ???
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...ld&btnG=Search

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    Al Gore was talking about a 20' rise in sea level in his movie, Im sitting at 26' so I would be oceanfront, my property value is going to skyrocket, I cant wait

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