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11-20-2008, 04:46 PM #1
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Looks Like its Gonna be 'Work till ya drop'
Or if you re a glass half full type, keep active in retirement.
To all the tax cut, preaching fanatics on here, what in gods name are you smokin?
Whatever it is its gotta be some powerful stuff if it makes this look logical:
1. US government borrows tons of money during goood times, and taxes are cut to 'stimulate the economy'
2. Mega wealthy individuals take this money and transfer it to over seas tax havens such as dubai, etc.
3. US taxpayers are left holding the bag with a trememdous government debt and futere claims on the government (ie. social security.)
4. The super rich retire on the beach of whatever tropical paridise they choose (when you have oodles of money everyones happy for your buck)
5. Rest of keep on keepin on
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11-20-2008, 04:54 PM #2
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well you voted for socialism .......... your getting it
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11-20-2008, 05:01 PM #3
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Not till 1/20/09 till then its bush's baby
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11-20-2008, 05:09 PM #4
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Why make a partisian issue out of this?
Its purely financial. How is social security going to be paid when tons of people start retiring and needing medical care.
The US government doesnt have unlimited borrowing capacity. Plus interest has to be paid on the 9 or so trillion $$ which has already been borrowed.
Now can you really say the the past 2 trillion dollars which has been added to the national debt during relativly good economic times was a prudent idea?
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11-20-2008, 05:22 PM #5
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its funny watching liberal congress trying to get as much more money thrown at it before Obama is in so more can be blamed on BUSH.
Democrats are feaking now being Obamas plan that he got elected on will never fly now.
You can see the markets opinion on where Obama is going to get us.
Ahhhh ..... you think this is a vote of confidence ????????
Now who is gonna get the last laugh

Don't worry ..... you were always planning on blaming it on bush.
Obama , Palosey, Barney Franks , and Dodd will show you the answers ....... Ya just what the conservatives were telling you were a lot of the problem.
Not sure you will believe it even then when it gets thrown in your face that socialism doesn't work like free markets do.
Say what you will ............ were ganna find out now arn't we

Now no one wants to here the words BAIL OUT as what they are doing with the big 3
What are we gonna call saving UAW when the government has to save their BUTT. ???????????
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11-20-2008, 05:42 PM #6
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Just look at the shape Clinton left the country, now look how bush is leaving it
Like they say the proof is in the pudding and some one peed in the republican pudding
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11-20-2008, 05:43 PM #7
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11-25-2008, 03:08 AM #8
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We had a large surplus, till Bush showed up.
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11-25-2008, 03:27 AM #9
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That's funny because OBAMA held a press conference today appointing cabinet members and the market immediately jumped 500 points, closing out the day up around 400 points.
Looks like even the stock brokers like what he had to say, go figure.
Even Warren Buffet has said something is wrong with our leadership policy's.
multi-billionaire paying less taxes than his secretary that only makes 40,000 a yr. Hmmmmm figure that one out!!!!!
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I suppose you are more business savy than one of the wealthiest men in the U.S.A.
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11-25-2008, 07:04 AM #10A Diamond is just a piece of coal, that made good under pressure!
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11-25-2008, 04:30 PM #11
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The paper I read supported McCain. But I'm reading that it looks like many of the op-ed's are taking another look at Obama. They like his choices for his cabinet.
The solution for out economic problems are jobs. We need more jobs. Even on a temporary basis like is being planned with government projects.
We've got to start making things again and stop thinking we are a service based economy. It's too ez to ship a service industry to India.Tracers work both ways.
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11-25-2008, 04:56 PM #12
The Clinton years are associated with good economic times in this country. I don't think Clinton actually deserves that much credit for it, mostly the good congress we had and the fact that most advanced nations were also in a time of economic prosperity.
But Obama is picking a Clintonesqe cabinet, and the market has reacted favorably. Encouraging, but it doesn't mean that it will work out that great either. No offense toward Obama, but I fear that the congress he has may be a disaster for this country. Hoepfully Obama will have the good sense to use his veto pen, though his statements thus far doesn't indicate that.
Our government aside, we are poised for a recovery around next spring. Hopefully congress and/or our new president won't do anything really stupid to jeapordize that. An Obama aid has already leaked that Obama is now saying he'll not push to repeal the "Bush" tax cuts anytime soon, perhaps he has better sense than to do some of the stuff he promised on the campaign trail.
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11-25-2008, 05:35 PM #13
Obama and his team are already upping the estimates on what plans that aren't even in effect yet are going to cost. That is what Washington is famous for so where's the change?


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