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  1. #27
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    How much more would it have cost for Goodman to ask to have a W2 on the board for those who believe a 2 stage thermostat is better? Carrier has used logic on 2 stage since the beginning but still offer W2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaldLoonie View Post
    How much more would it have cost for Goodman to ask to have a W2 on the board for those who believe a 2 stage thermostat is better? Carrier has used logic on 2 stage since the beginning but still offer W2.
    $2.21?

    It is what it is. Why confuse those poor, stupid Goodman installer's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    $2.21?

    It is what it is. Why confuse those poor, stupid Goodman installer's?
    Well, the saving the dealer gets, heck they could afford to send them to school to learn how?? (hehe)

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    Confused GOODMAN GMH95 VS. TRANE XV95 / PICKING TRANE...QUESTIONS

    I am picking the TRANE XV95


    - I have to pay extra to have the PVC set for the intake/retun for the trane. But the

    sales guy said that they typically set it up to grab from the basement (in addition to

    the return vents ?). I thought that high eff. furnace were setup to grab fresh air from
    the outside so that you would have better combustion compared to stale air. But in a typical situation like this you are only using the outside air for the furnace to burn, and inside air to blow over the heat exchanger.

    - My general aire bypass humidifier is very basic and it has a an analog dial to control the min/max of the humidity level..which I just turn up to max for most of the winter. For that reason alone I don't see the point of spending so much $$ on a honeywell IAQ..which will not be able to the humidity via analog dial..but only fan speed.

    - I want the furnace to be mounted on a concrete blocks. I don't see any pitfalls but the primary reason to do it..is to protect it from any water damage...if my sump pump fails.

    I am thinking about getting a quote for an amana ...but it is so much easier to buy a used car over a new furnace......mein gott !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecerone View Post
    I am thinking about getting a quote for an amana ...but it is so much easier to buy a used car over a new furnace......mein gott !!!
    Stimmt. Es ist ja schwer, einen neuen einfachen Flammofen zu kaufen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ECIndHVAC View Post
    Stimmt. Es ist ja schwer, einen neuen einfachen Flammofen zu kaufen.
    Why do you say it is difficult to buy a new high efficiency furnace? You compare efficiencies, features and warranties and make sure the installer is competent.

    Personally, I would not consider having a condensing furnace installed without having the combustion air from outside.

    The only major difference between comparable Amana and Goodman furnaces is the material the heat exchanger is made of. As long as no contaminants are being burned or condensate allowed to form on the heat exchanger during times when heating is not required, there is no advantage of stainless steel over aluminized steel. Of course the Amana furnace does have a better warranty.

    Things that are cause for concern for contaminants for heat exchangers are when the combustion air comes from inside the home rather then from the outside or if LP gas is used.
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
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  7. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmathews View Post
    Where do you live that you are running the heater? I need to move there. We've been near or above 100 for friggin 4 months. It's time for winter. Too damned hot and I need a break.
    Amen. I can attest to that. Spent a week in Round Rock back in the summer (late 70's) for the start up of the McNeil plant.

    Whew! Couldn't wait to leave.

    AM

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    "I thought that high eff. furnace were setup to grab fresh air from
    the outside so that you would have better combustion compared to stale air. But in a typical situation like this you are only using the outside air for the furnace to burn, and inside air to blow over the heat exchanger"



    Using the outside for both exhaust and combustion air is the way its done. No matter who makes the furnace.Why would he state he would not run the intake from outside on a Goodman, and then say Trane requires it from outside ? Grabbing combustion air from the basement will not be done if you have a gas dryer, water heater etc. Reason being is those units need combustion air also, so if your sucking air to the furnace for combustion, you starve the others of combustion air. Most inspectors I've dealt with want the intake from the outside. Also they must terminate in the same area. I think the rule is not more than 16 inches apart.
    I'll be there when I get there and not a minute later

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Why do you say it is difficult to buy a new high efficiency furnace?
    LOL,

    the OP said something in German, so I figured I'd brush up on my skills. You know what they say: Uebung macht den Meister!

  10. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by ECIndHVAC View Post
    LOL,

    the OP said something in German, so I figured I'd brush up on my skills. You know what they say: Uebung macht den Meister!
    Hey now, I've never called you that

    But, you know what else they say; practice makes perfect
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
    Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV


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