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    TXV with 13 SEER

    I paid for an upgrade (from 13 seer to 16) and the installer upgraded the wrong unit. When pulling the 16 and installing the 13, the installer said that he needs to pull the TXV. Is there any harm in leaving it?

    Wrong unit is XC16, swapping for 13ACD - each 3 tons. It's my downstairs unit and they offered to let me keep their "mistake" for $1k, would you pay that?

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    Sorry, I should clarify. The house is new construction and I paid to have the upstairs unit upgraded (I now have an XP16 for upstairs). The installers upgraded the downstairs by accident (XC 16). When they pull the XC16, they said they need to pull the TXV too, is that true? necessary?

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    Never mind. You cleared it up.

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    If the coil upstairs doesn't have a TXV it is.
    But if it does. No harm leaving the TXV on the first floor unit.
    Might need to pay to have a hard start kit added though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vtbuster View Post
    I paid for an upgrade (from 13 seer to 16) and the installer upgraded the wrong unit. When pulling the 16 and installing the 13, the installer said that he needs to pull the TXV. Is there any harm in leaving it?

    Wrong unit is XC16, swapping for 13ACD - each 3 tons. It's my downstairs unit and they offered to let me keep their "mistake" for $1k, would you pay that?
    A couple of thoughts
    1) Many 13 seer 3 tons have TXV's; no harm no foul
    2) If it has been installed it is yours! A contractor can not remove equipment once installed without your permission.
    3) I would tell him thanks for the 16 seer; as a contractor for me it would be just as costly to have it removed and replaced as just to leave it as a gift

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    Really?

    Sounds good to me. Anyone else have any thoughts about this? seems a little dishonest, but after all they've put me through I think it's the least they can do.

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    If they had any brains, they'd realize the labor and labor overhead for removing the TXV would be more than the cost of a TXV left on

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    That's kinda why I was asking. The moron that was here last was under the impression that TXV's were for the 410 systems only. Thanks to all of you for explaining that it does not need to be removed.

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    If it is a 410 TXV, it better be removed for an R22 outdoor unit!

    Goodman and Lennox are about the only brand who do not use TXVs on 13 SEER units.

    But TXVs don't interchange between the 2 refrigerants.

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    It was an R22 unit. Guess he wasn't a moron after all.

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