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    Shopping for HE furnace and air conditioner

    Hi: First post ( a great site!) and a question! I am planning to replace my 21 year old furnace and my 14 year old central air with something more efficient and also to make use of the rebates available up here in Canada, which are $1000 for a top line furnace and $400 for top line air conditioner, there are more rebates available, but these two ($1400.000 for sure! Anyways I was looking at the Lennox "Elite" series G61MPV furnace and the Lennox "Elite" XC14 air conditioner. The furnace comes with a lifetime(limited) warranty on the primary heat exchanger,but not sure about the warranty on the secondary heatxchanger,five year limited warranty on all remaining covered parts. The A/C has a 10 year limited warranty on the compressor, five year limited on all remining covered parts. I plan on living in this home for ever, so reliability is the main concern! Any other brands I should check out?
    Does anyone here have any first hand experience( ownership) with the Lennox "Elite" heating and cooling units? I have the luxury of shopping around and not have to buy right now, since all is working fine, but looking to replace this year, before the cooler weather starts. Thanks for any comments.Huck

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    General concensus is that a quality installation is more important than brand.

    Since you're replacing the A/C have you thought about going with a Heat Pump instead? Depending on your electric and fuel costs it could lower your heating bills even during moderate temperatures.

    What has led you to this specific brand and models?

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    Get a few estimayes from other contractors using other brands, to see what they offer.

    Nothing wrong with that Lennox set up you were quoted though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dac122 View Post
    General concensus is that a quality installation is more important than brand.

    Since you're replacing the A/C have you thought about going with a Heat Pump instead? Depending on your electric and fuel costs it could lower your heating bills even during moderate temperatures.

    What has led you to this specific brand and models?
    Thanks! The Lennox has my attention only because of the Lifetime (limited) warranty on the primary heat-exchanger, but I will look at others, maybe two more brands! I had a Keeprite heat pump when I lived in the country from 1993 to 2003 and it was 15 years old when I moved in! Worked good in the summer, but wintertime, we used our wood-burning stove(Vermont Castings with the catalytic converter) mainly, so the furnace never came on. Only prob I had was when I had a big snow fall during the early morning hours, the unit would have two feet of snow on top and when the unit started up( yes, unit runs all year) It would freeze up due to no circulation,so I had to dig out most of the time. Hydro was not cheap, so I don't think I want to go heat pump again, although they may have made some better units nowadays! Huck

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    There are others with the same warranty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    There are others with the same warranty.
    Thanks! Who are the others? I think Bryant has this warranty? Huck
    Last edited by Huck50; 08-28-2008 at 06:13 PM.

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    York
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    I believe Carrier also.
    Most brands have it in their high end line.

    Rheem probably has the best HX warranty( on their mod). If the HX fails, you get a new furnace, not just a new HX.
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    How many of those heat exchanger warranties at pro-rated?

    Do they include labor?

    Any special conditions to maintain these warranties?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    York
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    I believe Carrier also.
    Most brands have it in their high end line.

    Rheem probably has the best HX warranty( on their mod). If the HX fails, you get a new furnace, not just a new HX.
    Thanks! I can't find that warranty on their web-site? maybe you can supply me a link?! Thanks a lot! Huck

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    I have the G71 furnace with an XP16 2 stage heat pump. have not been through a heat season yet to see savings but did cut elec by half in june. very quiet very comfortable. As said the quality of the install on any brand goes a long way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladiesman271 View Post
    How many of those heat exchanger warranties at pro-rated?

    Do they include labor?

    Any special conditions to maintain these warranties?
    Non of them are pro rated.
    They don't include labor, they are limited warranties. Limited to the part only.
    The same as the other parts of the furnace.

    No special requirements on some, other then having to register with the manufacturer on some of them.

    Others start as 20 year warranties, but are increased to lifetime when a complete matching A/C, or heat pump is installed at the same time.
    Last edited by beenthere; 08-29-2008 at 08:52 AM.
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    Heres one link. It just tells you it comes with a lifetime waranty.
    http://yorkupg.com/homeowners/common...p?fldProdID=32

    Other manufacturers will have simular pages.
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    Nordyne includes a labor allowance of $250. Lifetime HX warranty to original owner if registered, 10 year furnace replacement pledge with the allowance.

    As for Rheem's Mod:

    Rheem will provide a replacement RGFD Gas Furnace to the
    original purchaser if the Heat Exchanger fails AND if the following
    additional conditions are satisfied:
    a) Unit is still owned by the original purchaser; in the
    original installation location; AND
    b) Warranty is registered with Rheem Manufacturing
    Company, Air Conditioning Division within 60 Days of
    original installation or closing of your home. Product
    registration is available online at www.RheemAC.com/
    register or by filling out the Warranty Registration card
    and returning it to the address listed on the reverse side
    of the card.

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