Why does Goodman get a bad rap?

[mark beiser]

Plus; the benefits of demand defrost in no way outweigh the problems the HVAC industry has had with them.

One manufacturer has had fewer problems with its demand defrost system over the last 20ish years than is typical for the time/temp systems most use.

[BaldLoonie]

Don't know who makes the board for that brand but they sure do a good job. Rheem & ICP used Ranco for demand defrost, the DDL wasn't the most reliable thing. ICP went back to timed, Rheem stayed with it. Overall I think they got the bugs out of it. The new Ranco boards with diagnostics and lockouts had a few bugs but failures are pretty rare.

Then there's the board Lennox & Allied used. On Air Ease, they only have a low pressure switch, the HP terminals are jumped. Yet we keep going out to find units locked out on high pressure. Finally learned from the factory that the board was programmed wrong. The indicator LEDs reported the opposite of what happened

Ought to hear a neighborhood full of cheap builder heat pumps on a cold night. Those timed boards go in & out constantly. Can get pretty noisy especially with a scroll screaming.

[cehs]

I have always felt Goodman gets a bad rap because:
1. the wrong people are improperly sizing equipment AND installing using too small of ductwork.
2. Goodman does NOT advertize while the others do and the price difference is why the OTHERS CANNOT COMPETE!
3. Somebody will always pick on the:
best/ lowest priced/ compeditor

It is just human nature to put down your competition when you cannot match their pricing...

[RoBoTeq]

Not sure who you calling ignorant,so I'll pass on commenting.

I got a chuckle out of your being ready to take offense over being called ignorant but are ok with the obnoxious part...

By ignorant, I am referring strickly to the absence of knowledge. For example, when "ignorant" poster makes a statement that Goodman only has great warranties because Goodman does not honor them. That would be someone who simply has no knowledge of what he/she is talking about.

[RoBoTeq]

One manufacturer has had fewer problems with its demand defrost system over the last 20ish years than is typical for the time/temp systems most use.

May be for the demand defrost, but I have had to change out an awful lot of that brands boards for overheating circuits that are only apparent when you take the darned things out and look at the back of them

[dash]

Well,I 'm not ignorant!

Obnoxious,can't say I've never been.

[RoBoTeq]

Well,I 'm not ignorant!

Obnoxious,can't say I've never been.

Interesting. I am ignorant of a lot of things. I just assumed that no one knew everything and therefore everyone was ignorant of something. I've just never come across someone who is not ignorant of anything. Sorry I've misunderstood just how perfect you are dash.

[adrianf]

Robo and Dash the two of you are held in fairly lofty regions on this board and I beleive in the industry. So the question that begs to be asked is What the hell are you two trying to accomplish? This is the public forum correct?

And I truly hope this isn't like getting between a husband and wife fighting.

[RoBoTeq]

And I truly hope this isn't like getting between a husband and wife fighting.

It's worse. Dash has been wanting me for several years now but has not had the nerve to leave his wife. I got tired of waiting and got married myself a year and a half ago. Dash is still having some issues over my no longer being available. It's a real emotional mess

I have to say what I did because I'm not allowed to refer to blue ovals

[dash]

Interesting. I am ignorant of a lot of things. I just assumed that no one knew everything and therefore everyone was ignorant of something. I've just never come across someone who is not ignorant of anything. Sorry I've misunderstood just how perfect you are dash.

You in your ignorance have a point there.However you accusation of ignorance wasn't qualified and you as usual are twisting the words of others,even though you are admittedly ignorant,amazing isn't it.

[dash]

It's worse. Dash has been wanting me for several years now but has not had the nerve to leave his wife. I got tired of waiting and got married myself a year and a half ago. Dash is still having some issues over my no longer being available. It's a real emotional mess

I have to say what I did because I'm not allowed to refer to blue ovals

You of all people should think before bringing my family into this.


I don't doubt you confessed love of men ,just not mutual,how many times do you have to be told?Geesh some men??,just don't take being rejected well.


Blue Ovals rock,nobody told me not to mention them,do you have that envy of being in the Blue Oval Club flaring up again??

[dash]

Robo and Dash the two of you are held in fairly lofty regions on this board and I beleive in the industry. So the question that begs to be asked is What the hell are you two trying to accomplish? This is the public forum correct?

And I truly hope this isn't like getting between a husband and wife fighting.

Long history,just burst his bubble about air flow,Puron and the list goes on,to many times years ago,search that site that has the really old threads,if you want to see it,and I'm sure you don't.

I did that search ,and was tempted to post some,but thought better of it.

[makemice1976]

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[beenthere]

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