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07-05-2008, 09:55 PM #1
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Another AC won't cool below 80F Problem
I live in AZ and one of my Goodman 3.5 ton SEER 12 units (only 2-year-old) is having trouble cooling the rooms below 80F in daytime after running for at least 3 hours straight (outside temp 100 to 110F). Using a laser thermometer, the temp coming out of the vents varies from 64F to 69F. My attic has R30 insulation. I've just changed the filter, and cleaned the condenser coils outside my house.
When the tech came, here are some measurements he took:
Sub cool: 11F / 10F
Superheat: 5F / 5F
Low side PSI: 75 / 77
High Side PSI: 280 / 260
Compressor: 22.1 - 18.3
Condenser: 1.6 -1.1
He told me those numbers look fine, and all he did is changing the piston from size 74 to 78 (according to him this will increase freon flow), and 'flush' the system.
Anyway, those didn't help at all, and now I have to call them back and do more diagnostics. What else can I ask them to look into (besides duct leaks)?
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07-05-2008, 10:10 PM #2
A load calculation....that system might not be big enough to handle what you want it to do. 80 degree indoor with 110 outdoor is a large difference.
If everything was always done "by the book"....the book would never change.
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07-05-2008, 10:37 PM #3
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Did the system ever cool better than it does right now?
Measure the temperature drop accross the air handler; if it's significantly greater than what you're getting at the vents, you could have a leaky return air duct or sections without (duct) insulation.
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07-05-2008, 10:38 PM #4
If your room temp is 80 (return air) and the supply air temp is 69 that is only an 11 degree TD, if the unit was operating normally it would be closer to 20 degrees. Its time for somebody else to look at it.
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07-05-2008, 11:08 PM #5
Hope he still has the old piston.
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07-05-2008, 11:12 PM #6
Superheat of 5
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If you don't know, then don't do. If you don't know and still do, then be prepared to pay someone else a lot to undo what you did and then do it right.
If you do know, then do. But do it right. Otherwise, you may not be doing it long.
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07-05-2008, 11:15 PM #7
happens with dirty ID coils.
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07-05-2008, 11:20 PM #8
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Hmmm! I flush a toilet or flush a radiator but changing a piston to flush an A/C
"Do not let what you can't do interfere with what you can do"
"Do what you can do the best that it can be done and no one will ever know what you can't do"
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07-05-2008, 11:27 PM #9
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07-06-2008, 02:54 AM #10
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Sorry, perhaps I shouldn't use the word 'flush'. According to the work detail, it's a 'System Evac', which he told me if something is blocking the line, doing that might help 'unblock' it.
I went outside and check on my condenser unit, I see water droplets forming on the cold line running into the condenser unit, is this normal?
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07-06-2008, 03:04 AM #11I fully support the military and the War on Terrorism.
If you don't know, then don't do. If you don't know and still do, then be prepared to pay someone else a lot to undo what you did and then do it right.
If you do know, then do. But do it right. Otherwise, you may not be doing it long.
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07-06-2008, 03:14 AM #12
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You need a good tech now quit with this guy and get a more experienced tech while your still ahead!!
I am not trying to bash but from what you say he sounds like a handy man!!"Do not let what you can't do interfere with what you can do"
"Do what you can do the best that it can be done and no one will ever know what you can't do"
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07-06-2008, 03:18 AM #13
I agree
I fully support the military and the War on Terrorism.
If you don't know, then don't do. If you don't know and still do, then be prepared to pay someone else a lot to undo what you did and then do it right.
If you do know, then do. But do it right. Otherwise, you may not be doing it long.


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