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    Quote Originally Posted by aintitfun View Post
    I would stay away from the goodman all together, even amana would be better, As both are made by the same company, the goodman is the lower end, composed of cheaper parts, and less features. I have installed the ASZ16 two stage (which is the amana), it seemed to work well, the controls in out door unit, are a little un-reliable over time though, they do offer a good warranty. If you want the best unit, get a RHEEM. you can look at their 16 seer at rheemac.com.
    Do you even read what you write? "Stay away from Goodman altogether but Amana is ok because they are both manufactured by Goodman...." Did this take an actual thought process?

    Just what is unreliable about the controls in the ASZ16 series? Just how long do you consider "over time" since this model has only been out a couple of years? Why have I, who have been involved with literally thousands of these units, not seen any overall control issues?

    Incidentally, if you used the proper air handler or coil for that ASZ16, it is exactly the same for Goodman or Amana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by $_aei View Post
    You ever heard of enhansed copper?
    Again, all manufacturer's must use some sort of "enhanced", ie; thinner walled or rifled copper in order to get the efficiency of the heat transfer required for today's standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    You keep talking like that, and your going to get Robo excited.
    RoBo sells a lot more then just Goodman products now. I'd say that Goodman products are actually getting low on my list of priorities.

    Then again, not much really gets me excited, I am a true anhedonic (look it up)
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    Quote Originally Posted by johncavh View Post
    why did goodman drop the name janitrol
    Contractors could not pronounce it properly
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    Quote Originally Posted by catmanacman View Post
    i disagree that the thinner copper has not been a problem finding more evap coils that leak then ever(not complaining just explaining )
    I have to agree. The combination of the thinning/rifleing of the copper tubing in the fin packs, the tightening up of buildings that prevents fresh air exchanges and the introduction of more VOC's through building materials and scented products has resulted in more coil leakage over the past decade.
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    Ran into as many leakers before they made the copper thinner as now.

    It kind of runs in spells.

    I'm not explaining, I'm just complaining.
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