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  1. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by pstangl View Post
    Jogas,
    I want to undersand the current programming. I will be replacing my Staefa (less than 20 sm2 cards)

    We have no documentation and the company who installed doesn’t exist anymore.

    I was able to print out all the blocks and I figured out the dbspis program for cross referencing.

    Is my best bet just is to piece together blocks using flow charts to figure out programming?

    Also does the pctool do more than the brick-like smartII tool?
    Flow charts are best.
    PCTool is better, if you can get the adapter/cable
    Jogas
    Four wheel therapy, my 1968 Camaro is gone and will be missed

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    SM2 software

    Quote Originally Posted by Thingamagigy View Post
    We took the PC tool program, put it on a USB stick with DOS, set the laptop to boot to the USB stick on start-up (but only when we want to run PC tool) and it works great. We use a Dell Latitude D610 and 620 because it has a serial port. And we make up our own cables. Since it runs in DOS and boots first it doesn't care what version of windows we have. Our Dell's run XP but we want to try it on a Vista machine just to make sure. But it should not be a problem.

    You should have seen the office explode with excitement when it hooked up for the first time. For us it was a desperate shot in the dark and we are very pleased with the results.

    Thingamagigy,
    I'm running a site with between 2000-3000 of these sm2 cards, we have a hand tool, but i'd love a copy of the PC tool or even better a copy of the entire contents of the USB stick. I have a cable here that is RJ11-DB9 so i think thats covered. Grateful if you could shoot it through to me.

    Cheers

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    PC Tool on DOS

    I can send you the file for PC Tool on a DOS /USB stick if you PM me with your email. We have managed to get that working and also a version that runs under XP but only on machines that have native serial ports. I would almost kill for a USB to DB-9 to work - I have tried a few - but it seems it has to be a true hardware port. My Latitude D410 in its dock works, but we really want to do this on a netbook. We have had some issues with the faster core 2 intels not running the XP version so well, and I am not sure what that is about. PC Tool can comm to the FC but be warned that the adapters are different for communicating to the FC and the card - just to be confusing.

  4. #30
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    Would also appreciate an email of the SM2 Service tool . Any success stories on Bringing them into WEBs platform (either Johnso or Honeywell)
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by she_zams View Post
    I can send you the file for PC Tool on a DOS /USB stick if you PM me with your email. We have managed to get that working and also a version that runs under XP but only on machines that have native serial ports. I would almost kill for a USB to DB-9 to work - I have tried a few - but it seems it has to be a true hardware port. My Latitude D410 in its dock works, but we really want to do this on a netbook. We have had some issues with the faster core 2 intels not running the XP version so well, and I am not sure what that is about.
    FWIW,
    Did you try using a USB/Comm Port Driver that has a Buffer Speed Slide adjustment?
    Slow it down as much as possible. Something to try.
    Jogas
    Four wheel therapy, my 1968 Camaro is gone and will be missed

  6. #32
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    Hi,
    Could I get a copy of the USB program as well. Email is in profile.

    Thanks,

  7. #33
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    Staefa Ms1800 software needed

    I am a tech guy for a local K12 here in GA, Desperately needing a copy of the Staefa software. Any help would be DEEPLY appreciated! Email in profile

    Thanks,

    Hot Sweaty Dan

  8. #34
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    Hi,

    Just inherited a Staefa smartII system. From researching this forum I have learned that the PCTools software is leaps and bounds better than the service tool. Any chance of getting it or a copy of the USB thumbdrive? Maybe some documentation?

    email is in profile

    Thanks!

  9. #35
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    does any one recommend a tool that integrates ms1800 to bacnet, the version of staefa i have doesn't have the bacnet terminal on the ncr

  10. #36
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    Smart II integration

    Where I work in those instances where we have to integrate Smart II points the only workable solution aside from completely going with a more modern system is using a Jace. You pay by the point. I am less familiar with the integration as we have an engineer who gets to yank his hair out to decide how to go and how to make it work. As near as I can figure a Jace will talk to anything but it often takes some doing and there is the cost of equipment and licensing. For new construction and major overhauls we are using ALC or Niagara Ax Jaces which can talk to anything built to the modern standards.

  11. #37
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    I Love Old Staefa

    Guys

    If it is any help, we can usually repair SM2, NCRS or Integral AS1000 controllers, recover or rebuild NCRS databases or AS1000 software, The Siemens Desigo controllers and head end are the replacement for these and MS2000 etc, and support BACnet, which is seemless, and doesnt require replacement of everything else in the system.

    If there are any questions I can help with, let me know.

    Cheers

  12. #38
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    Doh!...repeated myself
    Last edited by Gnasher; 11-29-2010 at 10:25 PM. Reason: Already stated

  13. #39

    PCTools

    Quote Originally Posted by she_zams View Post
    I can send you the file for PC Tool on a DOS /USB stick if you PM me with your email. We have managed to get that working and also a version that runs under XP but only on machines that have native serial ports. I would almost kill for a USB to DB-9 to work - I have tried a few - but it seems it has to be a true hardware port. My Latitude D410 in its dock works, but we really want to do this on a netbook. We have had some issues with the faster core 2 intels not running the XP version so well, and I am not sure what that is about. PC Tool can comm to the FC but be warned that the adapters are different for communicating to the FC and the card - just to be confusing.
    Is it possible to zip the files into an archive and e-mail? If so:

    d.saylor@3eservicesinc.com

    Also I could use a pinout of the RS232 cable so I can make one.

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