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    Talking are all humidifiers built equally??

    went to Lowes today. no SEER ratings

    after putting in my 16 SEER dual fuel system I don't want to waste $$ on an ineffecient humidifier. I'm green y'all know

    I need to dry out the basement a bit.

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    Buy a Dehumidifier to dry out your basement.

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    Twilli say AprilAire 700A
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    Why doesn't your dual fuel 16 SEER system keep your basement dry? That would be the "green" way to do it. Use what you already have and not have another piece of equipment running to do the same work.

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    The products from Lowes are probably run-of-the mill appliances which lean toward being noisy and not too energy efficient, but they do remove humidity. You might benefit from reading what the EPA has to say about Energy Star dehumidifiers:
    http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?...s#EnergyFactor

    At the bottom of that page you will find a "Product List" in Excel format which will list over a hundred different models, with specs for capacity and energy efficiency. I am assuming their information is accurate...

    Hope this helps -- Pstu

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech_in_kc View Post
    Buy a Dehumidifier to dry out your basement.
    uhh, yeah. DEhumidifier. too much wine and too much fun watching the bug zapper!! I'm frying some serious critter tonigh!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EverettsHVAC View Post
    Why doesn't your dual fuel 16 SEER system keep your basement dry? That would be the "green" way to do it. Use what you already have and not have another piece of equipment running to do the same work.
    I'm too cheap to open the vents down there

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    Quote Originally Posted by pstu View Post
    The products from Lowes are probably run-of-the mill appliances which lean toward being noisy and not too energy efficient, but they do remove humidity. You might benefit from reading what the EPA has to say about Energy Star dehumidifiers:
    http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?...s#EnergyFactor

    At the bottom of that page you will find a "Product List" in Excel format which will list over a hundred different models, with specs for capacity and energy efficiency. I am assuming their information is accurate...

    Hope this helps -- Pstu
    yep the Whirlpool marks amongs the LOWESt (pun) in efficiency

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    Quote Originally Posted by twilli3967 View Post
    Twilli say AprilAire 700A
    Stevensondrive asks where he can get one?

    dangnagit, I meant DEhumidifier. blame the bugzapper!! I had sooooo many dead bugs on it I had to hose it off to get it to work again (unplugged of course)

    I love to watch the little bugs explode in a ball of light!!
    Last edited by stevensondrive; 06-18-2008 at 12:33 PM.

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    If you are really cheap, buy the biggest dehu they have at Lowes. Say 70 pint per day. If the basement is not finished and you keep your storage items off the floor and there is no carpet in developed space, you may get by. Or even as suggested, try to do it with your perfectly sized a/c. Get yourself a couple %RH meters and monitor the results. When the humidity gets +65%RH during wet cool weather, post back to us. We try to figure out why your a/c is not operating enough avoid high humidity in your basement/whole house. After a couple weeks of high humidity a slight musty odor may develop. After 5 year, you will be able to smell walking in the front door.
    The last option, make an investment in a 90 pint per day real dehumidifier that will keep your basement <50%RH even when it is rainy for a week(no a/c). Your basement can be the nicest space in your home. In fact with a duct connection, the real dehu will keep your entire home <50% without a/c operation. Regards TB
    Bear Rules: Keep our home <50% RH summer, controls mites/mold and very comfortable.
    Provide 60-100 cfm of fresh air when occupied to purge indoor pollutants and keep window dry during cold weather. T-stat setup/setback +8 hrs. saves energy
    Use +Merv 10 air filter. -Don't forget the "Golden Rule"

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    Quote Originally Posted by EverettsHVAC View Post
    Why doesn't your dual fuel 16 SEER system keep your basement dry? That would be the "green" way to do it. Use what you already have and not have another piece of equipment running to do the same work.
    A basement with a 6000BTU total cooling load being served by a 2 stage 2 ton A/C won't be dehumidified. It will cool to fast, and the RH will increase.

    You need a dehumidifier for most basements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    A basement with a 6000BTU total cooling load being served by a 2 stage 2 ton A/C won't be dehumidified. It will cool to fast, and the RH will increase.

    You need a dehumidifier for most basements.
    I used to believe that and had a whole house dehumidifier in my own home. I thought I was doing the right thing. I never really looked at duct sizing until recently and found my basement return 1/2 the size it needed to be. I corrected the issue, removed the dehumidifier and now the basement is just as comfortable as the rest of the house.

    With that said, wouldn't a 2 stage a/c dehumidify better than my single stage like I have? Maybe I'm wrong and correct me if I am but I was under the impression that was a selling point of 2 stage equipment.

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    2 stage dehumidifies better then a single stage by increasing running time. The SHR isn't lower in first stage.

    If your basement is staying better now. You are probably light on return from your first and or second floor. And pullling conditioned air down from the first floor into the basement.
    Meaning that you are exchanging your basement air with conditioned air, not conditioning the basement air.
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