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    oil pressure problems

    I am working on a Carrier screw chiller that keeps triping on low oil pressure. I have already changed internal and external oil filters and their has not been any leaks on chiller since startup but it does not do it all the time

    Model #
    30HXA126RZ-600BA
    Serial #
    1398F33837

    Here are the last reading I took
    Percent 100%
    Discharge 178
    Suction 29
    Oil Pressure Differental 118.1
    Oil Pressure 174
    Discharge Gas Temp 156 F
    Motor Temp 186 F
    SAT Condensing temp 123 F
    SAT Suction Temp 32.7 F
    EXV 35%
    Cooler Level 2.1
    Econ. Pressure 52.8
    EWT 52 F
    LWT 47 F

    ANY IDEAS???????????

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    Which circuit is this on and what is the alarm number/code? And do you have a short chilled water loop?

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    I have one doing this but have not had the opportunity to change filters. I am interested in what you find.
    What we have here, is a failure to communicate........

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    How long does your external oil pump stay on after the compressor starts? It might not stay on long enough to get the needed evaporator lift for system oil flow.
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    this chiller is setup on a proccess loop that is running 5 extruders. It is about a 400 foot loop the code is 40 Compressor A1 Low oil Pressure.

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    It runs about 30 seconds after compressor is started but would that generate a pre start oil pressure problem

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    That's not what I was getting at. It is possible that the problem occurs during the first start up of the day when the ECW and LCW is below normal, not supplying enough lift to push the oil. This only happens for a brief period of time, till the circuit starts to stabilize. Try increasing from 30 seconds to, say 40, for starters and see how it goes from there.
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    You have a 15F evap approach which is way to high at 100% load, along with a 5 split. Do you have fouled evap tubes? EXV is on the low % end for being open at full load. Are you running glycol or water thru the evap?
    To much work with too little time!!!!

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    we had a eddy current test run two months ago came back good and they are using water

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    I will try to increase that monday and see from their

    THANKS FOR THE HELP

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    I don`t think you can change the pump time if the pressure is too low it know`s what to do i.e. truogh the psio logic. Do you have motormasters on the condenser fans? Pressure switches ok?

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    Also that looks to be a series 0 does it have a history of oil alarms and what version of software do you have?

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    series 0 with pic controls. Hum? May need to check/calibrate all of the pressure transducers.

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    Calibrating transducers man can that go wrong. Takes a liitle practice to get it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegoodlistener View Post
    Calibrating transducers man can that go wrong. Takes a liitle practice to get it down.
    The O & M is must for stuff like this.
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    No not really. Unplug wiring from all transducers. Remove all Transducers. Plug wiring back in to all tranducers. Go to calibration menu and calibrate all transducers at one time. All should read 0 psi. Reconnect all transducers and you are done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by licensed to chill View Post
    No not really. Unplug wiring from all transducers. Remove all Transducers. Plug wiring back in to all tranducers. Go to calibration menu and calibrate all transducers at one time. All should read 0 psi. Reconnect all transducers and you are done.
    Just saying that first time is a doozy when you don`t have a manual...a good tech is all about fixing your own screw-up when the need arises, those controls are also tempermental ???On these machines anything can happen especially a series 0.

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    I agree, a manual is a necessity when working on these machines. A system pilot is also helpful when plugged into the machine so you don't have to squat down to operate the handicap acessible lid keypad and you can view multiply items at one time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by licensed to chill View Post
    No not really. Unplug wiring from all transducers. Remove all Transducers. Plug wiring back in to all tranducers. Go to calibration menu and calibrate all transducers at one time. All should read 0 psi. Reconnect all transducers and you are done.
    Exactly what is explained in the manual. Some guys have great memories, I'm not on of them. Have your references in order, before you start the job.
    Just my two cents.
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    Tubes Fouled

    First off I would double check all temps with a temperature probe. If you still come up with 15 deg approach then brush the tubes.

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