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  1. #1
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    Confused What's my SEER/EER rating?

    I just got a new Lennox HVAC installed to replace the antique that was in my house.

    The following was installed:
    XP13-042-230 03
    CBX32MV-048-230-6 03
    ECB29-10CB2P

    I'm wondering what the SEER and EER rating is for this combination of equipment. I was quoted something by the authorized installer, but I have a feeling I'm being misled.

    Can you give me a 2nd opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbethke View Post
    I just got a new Lennox HVAC installed to replace the antique that was in my house.

    The following was installed:
    XP13-042-230 03
    CBX32MV-048-230-6 03
    ECB29-10CB2P

    I'm wondering what the SEER and EER rating is for this combination of equipment. I was quoted something by the authorized installer, but I have a feeling I'm being misled.

    Can you give me a 2nd opinion?
    XP13-042 heat pump condenser with CBX32MV-048 coil is ARI# 1327867.

    www.ARIDirectory.org.

    42,000 btu cooling (a full 3.5 tons), 11.5 EER, 14 SEER, 40,000 btu heating at 47F, 7.7 HSPF, 25,400 btu heating at 17F.

    The HSPF is week, other numbers look OK.

    Good luck.

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    thanks for the link to the ARIDirectory... that was exactly what I was looking for. Prinable certs and everything!!

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    What did the sales person tell you the efficiencies were?

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    Thumbs up

    Well to start off, I was unaware of what the ARI numbers was... there was a number listed on my invoice ARI# 1029224, but that meant nothing to me until Gary pointed me to the ARIDatabase... then it made sense (Thanks Gary!!)

    There was a slight difference in the ARI# that gary posted and the one for the stuff I bought... his search included a CBX32M-48*+TDR, my indoor unit is CBX32MV-048 (note the extra 'V').

    When I searched for the combination including the 'V', I came up with the same ARI number that my dealer put on the form and the certificate said SEER 15, EER 12.5 which is what the dealer quoted me.

    While Gary's search wasn't exactly what I needed, he did point me in the right directions which is good enough in my book. Thanks again G!

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    db

    1029224 Active Systems XP13 SERIES LENNOX INDUSTRIES, INC. XP13-042-230* CBX32MV-048-230* 42500 12.50 15.00 39000 7.70 24400

    my ARI matching number was a little different from Gary but that is one sorry HSPF eff rating.

    I thought I would check the same configuration in the step up XP14.

    1292519 Active Systems XP14 SERIES LENNOX INDUSTRIES, INC. XP14-042-230* CBX32MV-048*+TDR 43500 12.50 14.50 44500 8.25 27600 1

    a little better but nothing to brag about.

    IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanHughes View Post
    What did the sales person tell you the efficiencies were?
    What he said.
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    How many times must one fix something before it is fixed?

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    My ARI# was wrong - it was for a CBX32M-048, not MV. My bust.

    I'm guessing that the "V" signifies a variable speed air handler motor.

    Take care.

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    that's OK gary

    eyes get a little tired toward the end of the week...

    I am told that the cost difference to the XP14 is relatively inconsequential.

    Beside a different brand, don't you think OP would have been better off with the XP14 considering better heating BTUs and slightly improved HSPF?

    Hey Mr Lennox-what gives with these pump numbers?

    Best Rgds
    TD

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    Not much that can be done about it now... the OP can just enjoy the system he/she had installed. Dbethke: did the sales rep. give you the HSPF rating? It doesn't seem like he/she did given your previous post.

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    Talking

    I was/am unaware of the HSPF. I thought SEER or EER were the important numbers... sigh... so many variables to consider. (i guess I know what other feel like when I'm offering advice or 2nd opinions about their computer hardware )

    In any case, I'm stepping up from a non-heatpump (electric strips only?? something like that... it is an antique) system that is 20+yrs old so I think this new Lennox system will still put a dent in my $400+ Dec-Jan Bills heating bills (painfully high for a single story, 1800 SqFt). My bills are $250-350 in the summer. I have lots of room for improvement.

    While I'm sure there is always a better system to get, I'm think I'll be happy with this one. Maybe I should have have stumble across this forum earlier last month while I was still weighing all my options.

    I really appreciate all the responses! I've stopped by many forums on other topics where the community wasn't near as helpful.

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    what area of country do you live?

    if cooling is more important than heating, then you will be OK.

    But the fact remains, the heating eff number on the Lennox XP13 and XP14 systems can only be described as poor, particularly in an area where heating is just as important as cooling.

    IMO

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