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    What Would You Do?

    I live in the city of Toronto. My neighbor rececently told me he plans on putting an AC unit in the laneway between our homes which sit exactly 8ft apart (we each have our driveways on the other side of our homes) . We both live in brick bungalows and each have a couple of smaller windows on the walls which face each other. The propery line is right down the middle but no fence currently exists between our homes in this laneway. Also, his furnace/heat exchanger is on the opposite side of this home.

    #1 - I'm assuming that this is a bad idea from his standpoint in terms of being a poor location for a properly ventilated unit.
    #2 - I'm also assuming that this would be noisy for both of us as we each have windows facing the laneway
    #3 - Based on the property line, his side of the laneway is 4ft wide. Generally speaking, are there some sort of setback provisions in most cities for an ac install?
    #4 - Would a reputable ac installer go ahead with this install if there were any by-law issues involved? Is a permit generally required for an ac install?

    This guy is a brand new neighbor and I don't want to p*ss him off so what should I do about this situation? I want everyone to walk away happy but if push comes to shove (and the law is on my side) I'll do what I have to do to ensure that this thing doesn't get installed in the laneway. If I'm offbase with my concerns please let me know.

    Many thanks everyone.

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    That would be a common install around here.
    The newer units are not loud. (although loud is a perspective thing)
    Check teh local codes for your area, call the city, ask for code division.
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    noise wont be a big concern. No permit need for ac installation. 4 feet is enough for an ac. But if this is the common path to the backyard, then this would be an issue.

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    if its a new install and not just a replacement he's probably gonna need a permit at least for the electric work

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    Thanks everyone for the great replies.

    Yes, this is a shared walkway to our backyards and yes this is a brand new install.

    What if I wanted to put up a fence in this laneway (unlikely of course but for arguements sake)...I would think that the a/c unit would have to be at least a couple of feet from the fence (property line).

    I just don't understand why this guy wants to put his a/c unit in the laneway, when his furnace is on the other side of the house and he has his entire driveway to work with (no carport or garage either...just open space and not close at all to his other neighbor).

    I guess I'll have to look into our local building codes but I can see this getting ugly.

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    Putting it near the driveway is the worst place. He's smart for not doing that.
    If you want to put up a fence no problem.

    Only way I see this getting ugly, is you just not liking the unit sitting on the side of his house thats toward you. Its on his property.
    Get a permit and put up a fence. Then you don't have to see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    Putting it near the driveway is the worst place. He's smart for not doing that.
    Why is the driveway the worst place?

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    Risk of it being hit by a car. Gets dirty faster. Snow gets piled on top of it when shoveling snow off drive, damaging fins, bending fan guards, and or fan blades.
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    Thanks for the reply...some comments though:

    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    Risk of it being hit by a car.
    No risk there...his wife doesn't drive

    Gets dirty faster. Snow gets piled on top of it when shoveling snow off drive, damaging fins, bending fan guards, and or fan blades.
    I place a hard surface over my unit and then place a fitted cover over everything in the offseason...never had a probelm.

    Anyway, my point is, it's his unit so he should place it in a spot that incurs the least inconveniece to his neighbors (everythings else being equal). If that means his driveway or somewhere more towards the front or rear of his house then he should do so at his inconvenience not mine or anyone elses.

    These days people just do whatever is easiest for them and pleases them most and to heck with everyone else.

    Hopefully my neighbor and I can discuss the issue rationally and come to a reasonable solution.

    Thanks everyone for taking the time to share your comments.

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    You have been given some good advice

    Call your local building department and ask about permits for new a/c units being installed. Also ask about what kind of setback from the property line is required and then nicely talk to the building inspector about the issue.

    Talking to your neighbor in a civil manner would be good also and share your concerns with him. Maybe offer him a beer the next time he is out cutting the grass and approach him then.

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    These days people just do whatever is easiest for them and pleases them most and to heck with everyone else.

    These days too many people are worried about what their neighbor does, and wants everybody else to conform to their opinion.
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    The dirt is from when it being used, not just during the off season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    These days people just do whatever is easiest for them and pleases them most and to heck with everyone else.

    These days too many people are worried about what their neighbor does, and wants everybody else to conform to their opinion.
    You must be a fine person to have as a neighbor...music at all hours, mowing your lawn at 6:00am, etc, etc.

    I'm talking about reasonable accomodation..you're talking about being a jerk.

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