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05-19-2008, 08:19 PM #1
Time for some serious regulation....
of the US economy monopolies that have been formed since deregulation has become popular. I don't like interference from "big brother", but sometimes it's necessary so people don't get gouged.
Here they've de-regulated cable tv; my bill shot up. They've de-regulated the phone company...guess what? Now it's time to regulate....phone,electricity,and GASOLINE. These are monopolies that are making huge profits because their services are a necessity. Noone in business has a problem with anyone turning a profit, but the gouging(gasoline) shouldn't be allowed. JMO.If everything was always done "by the book"....the book would never change.
05-19-2008, 08:53 PM #2Regular Guest
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The speculation on Wall street has to stop.
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everyone must do their part to flood their congressmans and state senators offices with messages to close the enron loophole !!!!
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05-20-2008, 12:51 AM #3
Commodity futures purchases should be limited to entities that actually use the commodities. Speculators drive the prices up far out of proportion to the normal laws of supply and demand.If more government is the answer, then it's a really stupid question.
05-20-2008, 06:43 PM #4Professional Member
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Everybody on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange is a speculator. No body there uses anything.
I briefly knew one of these guys. Gets out of college, Daddy gets him a chair on the Exchange. He pays it off in 2 years and then it's all go.
What we are seeing is the rebirth of the Railroad Barron's only on warp speed.
The reason gouging is allowed is it's really hard to have a capitalist economy and tell capitalists they can't make money, or as much. It just doesn't wash.
But capitalists know the real money is in the hands of the middle class and if they were wiped it would flow to them.
Guess what... It works. The American middle class is broke. They might have a new car but the bank owns it. They might have a house but the equity is gone etc. I doubt little Jimmy will go to college.
Not long ago billionares were almost unheard of and noe they are almost commonplace. Guess where the money came from.Tracers work both ways.
05-20-2008, 07:03 PM #5Tough times don't last...Tough people do.
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05-20-2008, 10:09 PM #6
05-20-2008, 10:38 PM #7"I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
"I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them."
05-20-2008, 10:41 PM #8
Same old tired argument--Time for some serious regulation of the US economy monopolies
Except for the part about a government by the people, for the people, and OF the people.
Are you looking to create more career bureaucrats, or just save a few bucks?It's great to be alive and pumping oxygen!
05-20-2008, 11:00 PM #9
It is IMO that their lobbyists use their influence to obtain what amounts to a gross imbalance in tax breaks and special considerations which are chiefly responsible for the " out of proportion" of which you speak. This is part of the problem that leads to overpriced commodity values. But it is my contention that regulations do not solve the problem either, because regulations are basically cost-raising rackets lobbied for by some producers to hurt other producers.
Granted, my position still shows a faith in a free market, but between regulation and special interest lobbyists, we're not speaking of a free market. It may be the "free-est" market around, but it's not a free market as conceived in places like websites such as mises(dot)org. Just take a peek at that place and you'll soon get a taste for "free market" concepts.
Now, where were we?
The actions of a few (read: the Fed, et al.) cause many more peaks and troughs in market action than we need. Combining this with the imbalance of special interest lobbyists, and we are nearing the perfect storm as it relates to us: the little guys.
My first bit of advice is : grow your own food as much as possible.
But I digress
Last edited by The Doctor; 05-20-2008 at 11:29 PM. Reason: second sentence needed help!It's great to be alive and pumping oxygen!
05-21-2008, 08:04 AM #10
You honestly think anyone with stock in Oil really gives a ratts behind about a gallon of gas ? ?
Hell no , they are smiling all the way to the bank .
I just wish I HAD OIL STOCK when a barrel was 50.00
The only thing you might be able to do now ... is get Hedge funds and make money when oil goes back down . But lord knows if and when that happens .
05-21-2008, 11:48 AM #11
Oh yes that is exactly what this country needs- MORE government involvement in private business.
05-21-2008, 01:27 PM #12
It's not a private business....it's about commodities and monopolies. When you have something that everyone needs and will not be without, and you gouge them because you are the only source of said product, you need to be regulated to protect the people. How would you feel if you were charged for water at some rediculous rate, whether city or private source, and all water used must be paid for? Right now we have to purchase gas/oil no matter what the cost, at least most people do.If everything was always done "by the book"....the book would never change.
05-21-2008, 02:11 PM #13and will not be without, and you gouge them because you are the only source of said product, you need to be regulated to protect the people. How would you feel if you were charged for water at some rediculous rate, whether city or private source, and all water used must be paid for?Right now we have to purchase gas/oil no matter what the cost, at least most people do.It's great to be alive and pumping oxygen!