Call a crane company that wants to do the work. Either the lift your asking them to do is next to impossible and unsafe or the crane company doesnt want to stay in the business, find someone who would want to do business with you if the issue is the second one
Originally Posted by glock36
Ditto.. we've used a crane co. for years. All we ask for is a few more riggers just in case. Sounds like this crane co. you use may be looking for more $ from ya do you think ?
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I talked to crane co today, he told me that his insurance company told him about this when renewing his policy, its supposed to go it effect in 2009.
He said he was just trying to give us a heads up.
It might be BS..... I could'nt find anything on the OSHA website.
So for now, no worries
I can understand the insurance companies making it a requirement cause they want to weasel out of everything!
BUT! Think about it,it's not a bad idea.... I was surprised that on the only crane hvac lift I was on that thee wasn't a guy on the roof from the crane company doing the spotting and directions.
But then their crane was computer controlled so once the end location was established the crane was "hands off" and pc controlled.
We the willing, led by the unknowing, for the ungratefull, have done so much for so long with so little, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.
Refrigeration is all the same weather your making Ice, refrigerating or freezing the product.
So how do you get certified anyway? Even assuming this isn't a mandatory thing, I've never heard of such a thing.
Heck around here it's rare to even see a certified fork lift driver...
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I havent seen anything on certification, if I find anything I'll post it.
Originally Posted by amickracing
It was news to me too on Friday, I think if it does become mandatory it should be the crane co's responsibility to provide the "certified" person.
I could see it being a good idea on a construction site, but not for one fricking lift!
Did a Google search on the phrase
Crane Signal Certification 2009
and it looks like that is going to happen in Miami-Dade and Washington State but no official info across the US
We have a forktruck at our shop and all the men had to be certified on its use just in case something like a big truck comes in and the usual forktruck driving guy isnt there......
Originally Posted by amickracing
I can see this with the crane co.....insurance companies are always coming up with new ways to cover their asses.....and it all falls down......
Ive never heard of being certified to give crane signals..... I did take a class on it once...small pamphlet.....but didnt get any kind of certificate....or was not registered or anything..... but as I said....I can see it coming.....
Took a fire extinguisher class too...... for our insurance company.....lol
Dont blame these guys though......they are just like us.......becoming more and more controlled by insurance companies.....
I would inquire as to where your guys could get this certification....and get it....never hurts to be ahead of the pack.
I would have asked if he had a "certified" signal caller to send with the crane....
If everything was always done "by the book"....the book would never change.
Using walkie talkies or cell phones has always been flawless for me and the operator seems to feel good about it. If insurance co.'s are getting behind the idea then our elected officials will be on their side of the fence, that you can bank on!
We have walkie talkies we use, one time they wanted to use Nextel, but the one second or so delay was too long, went back to the walkie talkies