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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyBob View Post
    It's a Pontiac Bonneville........might just as well scrap it also.
    I will take the engine, if it will take that abuse. Would love to rebuild that for the Jeep transplant. What do you think, 302, 350 or in the 400's?

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    what some people will do!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyBob View Post
    It's a Pontiac Bonneville........might just as well scrap it also.
    Ooh I can see better on my PC now,. It does look like a Pontiac. Of course the Buick was built on the same chassis and very similar to the Cadi.

    The Buick's had some massive 455's and so did some of the Pontiacs.







    Quote Originally Posted by reepersteve View Post
    I will take the engine, if it will take that abuse. Would love to rebuild that for the Jeep transplant. What do you think, 302, 350 or in the 400's?
    I worked for a guy who loved them 455's. He used them in his tow vehicles and in his MILITARY Jeep.


    As for a regular Jeep. A 302 would be the easiest fit and weight balance. Unless you can get yourself one of those older Buick all Aluminum V8's. I've seen some people use them on rails, etc years ago. I forget the size. They were less than 300 cu in. like 215 or something. Probably not many mods around for that though.
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    that has to be one of the craziet shots i seen. what was that guy thinking? Looks like it a speedway and i wonder if those are two cops cars and a police officer talking to him? Nice photo ill be sharing that one.

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    The common engine for a Pontiac of that era was a 301, my mom had one of those beasts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaysonHVAC View Post
    As for a regular Jeep. A 302 would be the easiest fit and weight balance. Unless you can get yourself one of those older Buick all Aluminum V8's. I've seen some people use them on rails, etc years ago. I forget the size. They were less than 300 cu in. like 215 or something. Probably not many mods around for that though.
    The all aluminum Buick engine you refer to was 215. The engine was sold to Rover in '67 or '68 and became the Rover 3.5L
    Rover has developed it over the years and it is up to 4.6L in some current Land Rovers.
    There are a massive number of performance mods for the original Buick 215/Rover 3.5L engine. The most common is to bore it out to 4.0L, but there are stroker kits for it too.
    The later 4.0 and 4.6L blocks are the same physical dimensions for mounting, but have cross bolted mains and such, so are more desirable for performance mods. The 4.6 can be stroked out to 5.2L with a crank change.
    There are a number of performance intake options, including multiple carburetor, high performance FI, superchargers in a number of configurations, turbo(single and twin), etc..
    Most of the really good stuff for them comes from the UK and Australia, and does tend to be a bit pricey, but there are at least two specialist Rover V8 performance engine builders in the US that I am aware of, I'm sure there are more though.
    One is more into TR7 conversions, but can build you a turnkey 300+hp engine to drop into anything you can fit it into.
    The other specializes more in high performance engines for Land Rovers, for a high price they can upgrade your Land Rover Defender to a 340hp, 360 ft/lb torque engine that will pass emissions inspections.

    The Rover V8(ex Buick 215) is the most readily available V8 in any quantity in the UK, so it is the main focus of the majority of the performance tuning market for V8s over there.
    Last edited by mark beiser; 05-14-2008 at 08:22 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyBob View Post
    It's a Pontiac Bonneville........might just as well scrap it also.
    If that had been a 79 or older, that "Chief" would have run forever. Would have been able to haul more too!
    There's TREACHERY AFOOT!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyBob View Post
    The common engine for a Pontiac of that era was a 301, my mom had one of those beasts.
    Yeah I think that Pontican is newer than 76 so you are probably right.

    I was told that the 301's didn't make much power at all. Especially compared to the 455!



    Quote Originally Posted by mark beiser View Post
    The all aluminum Buick engine you refer to was 215. The engine was sold to Rover in '67 or '68 and became the Rover 3.5L
    Rover has developed it over the years and it is up to 4.6L in some current Land Rovers.
    There are a massive number of performance mods for the original Buick 215/Rover 3.5L engine. The most common is to bore it out to 4.0L, but there are stroker kits for it too.
    The later 4.0 and 4.6L blocks are the same physical dimensions for mounting, but have cross bolted mains and such, so are more desirable for performance mods. The 4.6 can be stroked out to 5.2L with a crank change.
    There are a number of performance intake options, including multiple carburetor, high performance FI, superchargers in a number of configurations, turbo(single and twin), etc..
    Most of the really good stuff for them comes from the UK and Australia, and does tend to be a bit pricey, but there are at least two specialist Rover V8 performance engine builders in the US that I am aware of, I'm sure there are more though.
    One is more into TR7 conversions, but can build you a turnkey 300+hp engine to drop into anything you can fit it into.
    The other specializes more in high performance engines for Land Rovers, for a high price they can upgrade your Land Rover Defender to a 340hp, 360 ft/lb torque engine that will pass emissions inspections.

    The Rover V8(ex Buick 215) is the most readily available V8 in any quantity in the UK, so it is the main focus of the majority of the performance tuning market for V8s over there.
    Interesting. The 4.6 is all aluminum like the 215 or a cast iron block now?
    Funny how all that goes back to something designed in the 1960's!
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    Thumbs down

    I don't know guys. A different engine would be great, but I can't stand throwing in $53 every time it's thirsty. Dammit man, it's a Wrangler not a Caddy. I filled up the 01' Jeep Laredo also, it's the 4.7L V8, $89.
    If it goes much higher, I will be the first to come to work or climb to the mountain top on squirrel cage mice power. Only I have got to find the mice before they get to the squirrel cage. They wont do much good dead.

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    i think its a mid 80s Buick Park Ave....it least hes rolling in style.
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    1984 park ave

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinner73 View Post
    i think its a mid 80s Buick Park Ave....it least hes rolling in style.

    It's a Pontiac...........not a Buick.

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    put my pic next to it....look at the hub caps and the emblem right behind the window of the rear door. maybe a different year than my pic but i think it's a Buick. it'd definitely not a Bonneville......slim chance it's a Pontiac Parisienne.

    i have owned 75+ cars in my lifetime...about 10 bikes too. no b.s.
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