how to keep birds etc out of exhaust pipe

[mayguy]

This has been used for years by Trane.


Never seen any birds in these.

Also, I think having the intake pipe going outside will make the furnace more quiet.

[cmajerus]

This has been used for years by Trane.


Never seen any birds in these.

Also, I think having the intake pipe going outside will make the furnace more quiet.

Oh I have!!! they love em, looks just like a birdhouse. Not too many, but I have pulled lots of nest out of all kinds of venting, worst seem to be
Class B out the side wall on garage heater. How the hell those swallows get in the high winds caps I will never know, but at Frontenac Golf course I pull one out every fall.

[mayguy]

Oh I have!!! they love em, looks just like a birdhouse. Not too many, but I have pulled lots of nest out of all kinds of venting, worst seem to be
Class B out the side wall on garage heater. How the hell those swallows get in the high winds caps I will never know, but at Frontenac Golf course I pull one out every fall.

Well, better quit putting birdfood in there! Unless Steve is doing it to make a service call for you guys. :-)

[t527ed]

thanks t527 guess im glad I didnt get you to quote it,lol really i understand but again I have talked to MANY experts including Rheem and no issues, hope it works out. Just curious what you see as the major problem doing it ?


Dont majority of furnaces take inside air ? Many here have told me they see a good share of single pipe systems ????
Oh well thanks just the same

when you take contaminants from inside air and burn them you change the chemical compounds. then you are going to condense it in the secondary heat exchanger and have that stuff eating the furnace from the inside out. just because it is stainless does not make it indestructable.

the other ongoing problem you will hace is build up from the contaminents on the flame sensor that will have to be removed and cleaned on a regular basis. on a 90+ furnace this can be a real pita.

majority of furnaces that use inside air are 80% efficiency furnaces and they don't form condensation if working properly.

[beenthere]

the other ongoing problem you will hace is build up from the contaminents on the flame sensor that will have to be removed and cleaned on a regular basis. on a 90+ furnace this can be a real pita.

majority of furnaces that use inside air are 80% efficiency furnaces and they don't form condensation if working properly.

Won't have to clean the flame sensor on a 90% using ID air, anymore then on a 80% using ID air.

[smokin68]

Just wrap a rubber snake around the exhaust pipe....problem solved. The mesh is for insects...

[t527ed]

Won't have to clean the flame sensor on a 90% using ID air, anymore then on a 80% using ID air.

yea but i can clean the 80% sensor in about 10 seconds...



some of the 90's can be a challenge to get to.

[gasoilair]

wow, 87 posts about a pipe..

I think she said the house was built in 1955? If this is the case, then there's loads of makeup air. Shoot, you could probably move the exhaust inside and not notice a difference. (That would solve the bird problem too. Bonus!)

[gasoilair]

Just wrap a rubber snake around the exhaust pipe....problem solved. The mesh is for insects...

LMFAO, brings back memories. I told a customer to do this a long time ago to deal with the birds, so he said he would take care of it. Two days later, his wife called at 1am and said the heat was out. I got there and there was this huge friggin rubber rattlesnake stuffed all the way into the vent with just it's head sticking out.

[cvcman]

well I guess im glad I have a 10 yr parts and labor warranty. If inside air was that much an issue I wish the techs at Rheem would know this info

Also out of 3 different reps here and Carrier and Bryant everyone said no problem, we are going to go with it if its a big issue we will have to change it. I have more than enough makeup air my 102k btu oil furnace has been using the inside air for years

I hope my rep knows how to clean the dirty stuff

[cmajerus]

well I guess im glad I have a 10 yr parts and labor warranty. If inside air was that much an issue I wish the techs at Rheem would know this info

Also out of 3 different reps here and Carrier and Bryant everyone said no problem, we are going to go with it if its a big issue we will have to change it. I have more than enough makeup air my 102k btu oil furnace has been using the inside air for years

I hope my rep knows how to clean the dirty stuff

10 yr p&l doesn't cover dirty flame sensors so that won't help ya. But if you have a yearly clean and tune it will be a non issue anyway. BTW get a yearly clean and tune

[cvcman]

how hard is it to clean this sensor on a 2 stage ?? I asked Rheem and they said it wouldn't get any dirtier than any other furnace and combustion either inside or outside wouldnt matter on the flame sensor ???


Is this something that can be cleaned easy ??

[cmajerus]

kind of, they are harder than some, but not as bad as others. Nothing to worry about if you have it serviced.

[I_bend_metal]

how hard is it to clean this sensor on a 2 stage ?? I asked Rheem and they said it wouldn't get any dirtier than any other furnace and combustion either inside or outside wouldnt matter on the flame sensor ???


Is this something that can be cleaned easy ??

Just have your new stuff serviced once a year and don't sweat the small stuff!!!

[arc8]

how hard is it to clean this sensor on a 2 stage ?? I asked Rheem and they said it wouldn't get any dirtier than any other furnace and combustion either inside or outside wouldnt matter on the flame sensor ???

oh yeah!
maybe where you are at...
but here, the homes have more chemicals and lint or whatever they have compared to the fresh air, really making a difference.
Perhaps it is more polluted out there than here!

[cvcman]

our insdie air is clean here
Now when Twilli comes over after beans and bacon thats another story

Outside air is clean too. We will see how it wors out thanks again fellas

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