Condenser replacement only?????

[starr]

Ok, Now I've read several posts where condensers only were changed out and the old evaporator was left in.

All of the residential companies I've worked for always replaced evaporators, condensers and linesets!

So what gives with leaving old and sometimes mismatched evaporators in the system?

[channelislands]

To My knowledge and Im sure many on here will have quite to comment on is due to variances in the metering of the refrigerant. What I mean is if you put a 13 seer condensor in on a 10 Seer Coil its lovel to flood the evaporator slug the compressor..... I know where ever I worked before if it was a direct swap in tonnage and seer rating I would just change the condensor if need be. Now due to the higher efficencies and capacitys of refrigerant the only way Id put a 13 seer condensor in on a 10 seer unit would be to change the metering device to a txv and sometimes the coil. I prefer not to mixmatch anyways like to keep a whole system as is just seems to work better.

[t527ed]

in some cases the installer does not know any better.

in some cases the customer won't pay any better.

in some cases homeowner doesn't know any better and installer is a quick in and out hack.......

[channelislands]

Or the customer is explained doesnt care if it wont work and finds a hack thats willing to do it anyway. Then they call us back and want it to work and wonder why it doesnt. So we fix it rite and charge the crap out of em.

[vaughn jam]

i have a question about the ge x13 ecm motor who can help

[t527ed]

i have a question about the ge x13 ecm motor who can help

start a new thread

[RyanHughes]

i have a question about the ge x13 ecm motor who can help

You can use the search feature (there is info about this on this forum) and/or start a new thread (http://www.hvac-talk.com/vbb/newthre...=newthread&f=1).

[starr]

in some cases the installer does not know any better.

in some cases the customer won't pay any better.

in some cases homeowner doesn't know any better and installer is a quick in and out hack.......

Or the customer is explained doesnt care if it wont work and finds a hack thats willing to do it anyway. Then they call us back and want it to work and wonder why it doesnt. So we fix it rite and charge the crap out of em.

It figures!! I was hoping this wasn't going to be a new trend.

[t527ed]

It figures!! I was hoping this wasn't going to be a new trend.

optomist...... huhh??


as long as we have hacks we will have customers willing to use them......

[bmathews]

It happens a lot. We always tell the customer about the possible consequences. A lot of times the people can't afford a coil and condenser change, but they need cooling. I'm not going to leave somebody without cooling, it gets hot here in Texas. Its already 90+. If we don't sell it to them, somebody will. I prefer to make money and feed my family rather than throw a temper tantrum and refuse to sell somebody something because they don't agree with what I tell them. Generally, if you don't screw them over, they will be calling you back to fix it right when they get the $$$.

[HVACSvc08]

It happens a lot. We always tell the customer about the possible consequences. A lot of times the people can't afford a coil and condenser change, but they need cooling. I'm not going to leave somebody without cooling, it gets hot here in Texas. Its already 90+. If we don't sell it to them, somebody will. I prefer to make money and feed my family rather than throw a temper tantrum and refuse to sell somebody something because they don't agree with what I tell them. Generally, if you don't screw them over, they will be calling you back to fix it right when they get the $$$.

I agree. I work for a "high end" company that will sell an elderly couple a top of the line system even though they don't really need but they have the money to pay for it. But everybody isn't the fortunate so they buy what they need especially if it's 90+degrees.

[trane]

It happens a lot. We always tell the customer about the possible consequences. A lot of times the people can't afford a coil and condenser change, but they need cooling. I'm not going to leave somebody without cooling, it gets hot here in Texas. Its already 90+. If we don't sell it to them, somebody will. I prefer to make money and feed my family rather than throw a temper tantrum and refuse to sell somebody something because they don't agree with what I tell them. Generally, if you don't screw them over, they will be calling you back to fix it right when they get the $$$.

If you won't do it somebody will so that makes it ok I guess? I consider not doing it the best for both of us and am 100% sure I didn't screw them over.

[jpb2]

I agree trane ! do it right or walk away too many potential costly problems. If it is a temporary fix for a few weeks before you can do the evap/furnace swap ok maybe