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  1. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by dippy View Post
    One more question. In three years would you buy a house with a three year old r22 system?

    In 3 years. If people stopped buying houses because it has a 10 year or older R22 system.
    All HVAC contractors would be really really happy. We wouoldn't have a slow period for 20 years.
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    How many times must one fix something before it is fixed?

  2. #15
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    As everyone else has said move to 410A. If this is a straight cool with gas heat I would also look at the Freus line depending on your geographic location. It will be more expensive to install as well as it will require a minimum of 2 PM visits a year however the energy savings will offset that in the long run

  3. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan sw fl View Post

    R-22 is being phased out for use in new equipment in 635 days
    ( December 31, 2009)
    that sounds a little misleading.

    Under the terms of the Montreal Protocol, the U.S. agreed to meet certain obligations by specific dates that will affect the residential heat pump and air-conditioning industry:

    January 1, 2004:
    In accordance with the terms of the Montreal Protocol, the amount of all HCFCs that can be produced nationwide must be reduced by 35% by 2004. In order to achieve this goal, the U.S. is ceasing production of HCFC-141b, the most ozone-damaging of this class of chemicals, on January 1, 2003. This production ban will greatly reduce nationwide use of HCFCs as a group, making it likely that the 2004 deadline will have a minimal effect on R-22 supplies.
    January 1, 2010:
    After 2010, chemical manufacturers may still produce R-22 to service existing equipment, but not for use in new equipment. As a result, heating, ventilation and air-conditioning (HVAC) system manufacturers will only be able to use pre-existing supplies of R-22 to produce new air conditioners and heat pumps. These existing supplies would include R-22 recovered from existing equipment and recycled.
    January 1, 2020:
    Use of existing refrigerant, including refrigerant that has been recovered and recycled, will be allowed beyond 2020 to service existing systems, but chemical manufacturers will no longer be able to produce R-22 to service existing air conditioners and heat pumps.

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