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    Bryant vs Amana

    Looking to install a new c/a system in our house and got four quotes. Narrowed it down to two based on cost. I'm trying to get an idea about reliability, efficiency, etc. I've read a lot of the posts here and know that most of the quality of a system is in the installer, but I'm trying to get an idea of the quality of the equipment. Also, any suggestions would be welcome as well. I'm in the Northeast, and the heating is a separate gas baseboard system. The house is a ranch, the c/a will be used for the main floor which is about 1600 sq ft.

    The systems quoted are:
    Bryant 3 ton 15 SEER model 165ANA036 R410-A with a Bryant FV4?003 a/h
    Amana 2 1/2 ton 14 SEER model ASX14030 with an Amana/Goodman AEPF3036 a/h

    Any thoughts are most appreciated. TIA

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    get the bryant unit is equipped 410a refrigerant you wont be sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by workhc View Post
    get the bryant unit is equipped 410a refrigerant you wont be sorry
    As is the Amana... Any reason why the Bryant guy is quoting a 3 ton unit? Did he do a load calculation to determine this? Be careful when choosing based on cost. It could cost more in the long run.

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    Bryant vs Amana followup

    The cost differences between the two systems was negligible which is why I'm trying to get opinions on the quality. The two other quotes were from big box stores (Sears and HD) for Carrier and Trane systems. These two quotes were about 35 - 40% higher than the local guys. Both the Carrier and Trane systems were 2.5 ton 14/15 SEER systems with v/s a/h.

    Both guys did Manual J(?) estimates although the Bryant rep was factoring in for the exposure of the front side of the house which is why he recommended the 3 ton system.

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    Both systems run on r-410a. Amana is a very nice system with a lifetime compressor warranty, lifetime unit replacement if compressor fails and 10 year parts warranty. I install 1-2 a week asx14 series and am very happy with the brand.

    Go Amana

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    Either system is excellent and if installed properly will provide years of trouble free service. The Amana system has the better basic warranty but both can be upgraded to 10-years parts and labor. DO NOT PURCHASE A VARIABLE SPEED PRODUCT WITHOUT A 10-YEAR PARTS AND LABOR WARRANTY.

    Ask for a written performance guarantee; they should have no objection if they performed their load calculation properly.

    I sell both Amana and Bryant and have no real dependability issues. I do have some issues with the Amana CSCF evaporator coil but you will not have that issue.

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    the variable speed motor is great but if it fails out of warranty get ready to open your wallet. i would recommend the 3 speed psc air handler

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    Quote Originally Posted by workhc View Post
    the variable speed motor is great but if it fails out of warranty get ready to open your wallet. i would recommend the 3 speed psc air handler
    No way. A variable speed blower gives you so much more control of the air for dehumidifying and filtration that I never recommend a psc motor to other then rental properties.

    As stated, get the 10 extended labor warranty with whatever you go with. Just an FYI; that Amana system with the variable speed blower is ARI rated at 15 SEER.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    No way. A variable speed blower gives you so much more control of the air for dehumidifying and filtration that I never recommend a psc motor to other then rental properties.

    As stated, get the 10 extended labor warranty with whatever you go with. Just an FYI; that Amana system with the variable speed blower is ARI rated at 15 SEER.
    would you like to spend a thousand dollars just to replace your blower motor

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    Amana vs Bryant

    RoBo - the Amana guy did mention that EnergyStar considers the ASX a 15 SEER (for rebate purposes) unit, he called it a 14+, even tho Amana rates it 14.

    Both installers touted the v/s a/h ability for filtration and dehumidifying. The filtration is something I'm looking for b/c me and the kids have allergies. Is it true that with proper filtration (and what would that be) you could run the fan on in the off season to recirculate and filter? Does it actually help the heating system or cause it to work harder?

    To bring the Bryant warranty up to 10 year essentially makes both units the same cost. THere doesn't seem to be any compelling reason (save for the lifetime replacement on the compressor) to choose one over the other so I guess I need to narrow down based on the installer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by workhc View Post
    would you like to spend a thousand dollars just to replace your blower motor
    If they have the 10-year P&L why would they spend anything on a bad motor? Beside that the ECM motors are very durable and trouble free most that are replaced are misdiagnosed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by workhc View Post
    would you like to spend a thousand dollars just to replace your blower motor
    Nope. Don't like spending $2,000 every time an automatic tranny goes up in one of my vehicles either, but I still buy automatics.

    Besides, with an extended 10 year warranty the HO would pay nothing if a motor went up within 10 years and have the benefits of higher efficiency year round along with better filtration and dehumidification. Also, after 10 years of savings from a VS motor, a HO could have enough in savings to buy a new VS blower motor. It's a win-win situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtragic View Post
    RoBo - the Amana guy did mention that EnergyStar considers the ASX a 15 SEER (for rebate purposes) unit, he called it a 14+, even tho Amana rates it 14.

    Both installers touted the v/s a/h ability for filtration and dehumidifying. The filtration is something I'm looking for b/c me and the kids have allergies. Is it true that with proper filtration (and what would that be) you could run the fan on in the off season to recirculate and filter? Does it actually help the heating system or cause it to work harder?

    To bring the Bryant warranty up to 10 year essentially makes both units the same cost. THere doesn't seem to be any compelling reason (save for the lifetime replacement on the compressor) to choose one over the other so I guess I need to narrow down based on the installer.
    That system is rated by Amana in the Amana specifications as a 15 SEER system. The ARI ratings are done by manufacturer's and then submitted to ARI for publication. These ratings are also checked periodically by ARI and Goodman has the best track record of not having been derated by ARI since 1982, just after Goodman purchased the Janitrol company.

    Both are good choices, but I always prefer to undersize a little then oversize.
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