Singer furnace ?
Have a old Singer furnace . My Question is does anyone know the year of manufacture. The model is G-H 16131-00-164, Serial 0000241167 H30-0039 This is a older unit but seems to run ok. Thinking of updateing in the next year with a newer type furnace. Thanks for any replys!!
Its old. Have you had it checked out lately?
About three years ago, it runs fine and seems to burn clean. A friend of mine is a HVAC guy he said he could install a high effishent unit with a A coil for $. I'm thinking that is a good deal. My home is about 1,200 sq feet. Thanks for your reply! I found a year on the furnace it was made in 1974.
Last edited by beenthere; 05-15-2013 at 09:35 PM.
retire that thing
any money spent is a waste of money on a singer....retire it it has lived its life and done its job
Just talked to my friend. He said he would match up my old furnaces btu with Goodman furnace. Unit and with the A coil installed. I'm thinking $2.000 is a good price, if Goodman is a good unit. Thanks for your reply!
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Any money spent on a replacement furnace is wasted unless the installing company has done the following:
A full Manual 'J' load analysis of the area to be heated/cooled.
A full Manual 'D' duct analysis to match the Manual 'J' calculations.
Select a furnace using Manual 'S' so you get what you need for the home, not more, not less.
Seek out a reputable company that is covered by worker's comp insurance and liability insurance. You'll also want a company that has a technician on duty 24/7, in case the new furnace has a problem when your friend is on vacation. This about this a minute. If you hire a 'moonlighter' to install your furnace and he trips over his own foot, falls and gashes his face with a piece of sheetmetal he brought to the job. The sheetmetal cuts his eye. He needs to go to the hospital (your furnace is, by this time, sitting in your backyard along side the new one) and his eye needs a specialist. Who's paying for this? YOU ARE! As a result of the injury, he can't complete your job. You have to hire another company at triple the price the moonlighter quoted. But that's not the end. He's going to be out of work for a month while his wounds heal. Who's paying his wages? YOU ARE! In the end, his sight never returns to his injured eye. He sues. Who does he sue? YOU! Hopefully your homeowners insurance is paid up and they defend you in court. Naturally, they don't really go to court, they just pay the injured party $250,000 for his loss of eyesight in one eye. When your HO insurance comes up for renewal, you can't get any coverage, no company will touch you, because you hired a uninsured moonlighter to do your job. So how much did you save? Let's see, you didn't have to pay him but you did have to pay the other company. But even though your insurance company paid the injury bills, you had a lot of paperwork and now you've got cancelled insurance. Yup, that was a bargain for sure. Roll the dice. Are you feeling lucky today?
If YOU want change, YOU have to first change.
If you are waiting for the 'other guy' to change first, just remember, you're the 'other guy's' other guy. To continue to expect real change when you keep acting the same way as always, is folly. Won't happen. Real change will only happen when a majority of the people change the way they vote!
If you're buddy has a license behind him and insurance and does a good job, everything should be ok. I help my friends out all the time with good prices. I don't do it on the side, I'm able to do that through where I work at and still give them a good deal. If my friends call at 10pm and its cold or hot outside, I will drive to help them. No biggie. I'll drive to help almost anybody if they need help and I can. Just don't let somebody steal a furnace from their boss and install it, as long as through his company, everything should be fine.
Why would you want the same size higher efficiency furnace?
For the sake of aurgument, lets say your old furnace is 100,000 btu input, and 70,000 btu output. And the ducts are sized for that output.
Now your friend puts in a 90% 100,000 input 90,000 output, it moves more air so its noisey, and it shuts off on high limit all the time, and uses almost as much gas.
If a load calc is done, you may find you only need a 80,000 btu 90%.
It uses less gas and isn't noisey.
The coil isn't part of teh furnace, why change it unless your changing the A/C at the same time.
Unless you know what brand, and model A/C condenser your going to install later, it doesn't make sense.
Thanks for all the replys. Tomorrow my friend will look at the old system and calculate the size for the home. Never had central air thats why I thought about having the A coil put in while I have the new furnace installed. Make it easier for the AC hook up later. Want something to save on the gas bill as long as it's something new has to be better then something 35 years old. Probally losing a lot up the old chimney. Thanks again for everyones input!!
Buddy installing a Goodman and basing it on size of relic. Harold would be so proud
I had a Singer furnace and AC that was the original installation when the house was built about 1973. The furnace was a beast (450 lbs)that was grossly over-sized at 140K BTU and the furnace was forever short-cycling because it was much too big for a 2300 sq. ft. house in metro Atlanta.
The Singer furnace was replaced with a Trane 100K BTU XV90 furnace and the gas usage has been about 60% of the former furnace. The comfort factor was much improved with the Trane variable speed two-stage furnace as the comfort difference has been like night and day.
The old Singer furnace would run for about 5 minutes and shut off and was constantly cycling and was very expensive to run. The Trane runs on low stage much of the time and only occasionally jumps into high-stage when needed.
The old Singer was still working fine at 30 years old but its time had come to be replaced with a newer furnace that has delivered a pronounced difference in comfort and efficiency,
Originally Posted by TERRY B
your furnace was built the 30th week of 1981 and was the 39th unit off of the assembly line.