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    Guess you can't read, I don't hate W, just don't think he is a good President. Afghanistan I can understand but the American people were scared into accepting the war in Iraq, I believe it was all about WMD's wasn't it?

    I believe that you brought up "Bush Hatrid" in your first response while you were on your Clinton, Obamma tirade.

    Health care, wait till you have a major health problem before you speak on how great ours is. If you don't pay they will take everything you have and leave you in poverty and better yet if you don't have insurance your SOL. Meanwhile the doctors have America so strung out on prescriptions they have pills to counteract the effects of pills, I wonder who is making money there, couldn't be that the Doc's get commissions on prescription drugs could it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pabull View Post
    Sorry all. Didn't mean to follow the hijack tangent. Just trying to enlighten the unenlightenable.
    No problem, you softened him up some before we finished him off for the hijacking offense. Slaying liberals has never being easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksufan View Post
    Guess you can't read, I don't hate W, just don't think he is a good President. Afghanistan I can understand but the American people were scared into accepting the war in Iraq, I believe it was all about WMD's wasn't it?

    I believe that you brought up "Bush Hatrid" in your first response while you were on your Clinton, Obamma tirade.

    Health care, wait till you have a major health problem before you speak on how great ours is. If you don't pay they will take everything you have and leave you in poverty and better yet if you don't have insurance your SOL. Meanwhile the doctors have America so strung out on prescriptions they have pills to counteract the effects of pills, I wonder who is making money there, couldn't be that the Doc's get commissions on prescription drugs could it?
    I guess YOU cant read!! The ONLY reason I used terms like "Bush hatred" and others was: to add backing substance to the reasons why Dimocrats are supporting the Socialists as far as "Socialized" Healthcare is concerned. Take a basic English course sometime...you will see great emphasis put on the term "context".
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    Yep you guys got me with your superior wit and knowledge.

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    I would be willing to bet that what you consider "Bush hatrid" is the same manner in which you talked about Bill Clinton, so what's the difference, just that your always right? I hope you get another Clinton so you can fume for 4 years. As for taking basic English classes, I doubt you want to compare education. Good evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksufan View Post
    I would be willing to bet that what you consider "Bush hatrid" is the same manner in which you talked about Bill Clinton, so what's the difference, just that your always right? I hope you get another Clinton so you can fume for 4 years. As for taking basic English classes, I doubt you want to compare education. Good evening.
    No...was just stating facts. Quit hijacking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksufan View Post
    Guess you can't read, I don't hate W, just don't think he is a good President. Afghanistan I can understand but the American people were scared into accepting the war in Iraq, I believe it was all about WMD's wasn't it?

    I believe that you brought up "Bush Hatrid" in your first response while you were on your Clinton, Obamma tirade.

    Health care, wait till you have a major health problem before you speak on how great ours is. If you don't pay they will take everything you have and leave you in poverty and better yet if you don't have insurance your SOL. Meanwhile the doctors have America so strung out on prescriptions they have pills to counteract the effects of pills, I wonder who is making money there, couldn't be that the Doc's get commissions on prescription drugs could it?
    I was merely responding to your post with your outrage at Bush for both Iraq and Afghanistan. There definitely was an imply hatred of Bush in your posts and they had "nothing" to do with the socialized health care in Canada.

    Now you still aren't addressing that other than saying that we have a bad system here. Well I know someone who had to have a $40,000 surgery done on his arm after a accident. He did not have any money or insurance but it was paid for and he didn't have to wait 6 months to have it done either.

    I will tell you this the costs are at least double here what they should be thanks to the Democrats in Congress since they are beholding to the trial lawyers. They have allowed them to sue the doctors, hospitals and everyone one in the health care field for millions if they make one mistake. I am not talking about payment for actual damages but millions of our tax dollars, insurance dollars, and out of pocket expense to cover pain and suffering and punitive damage costs. It is hurting the health care industry. This was caused by Democrats and not by greedy doctors or Republicans.

    They have caused the problems by making having surgery a chance to make millions like in a lottery if anything goes wrong. Hillary and Obama will make it worse. McCain won't cure it that's why we need a real conservative in the WH to save this country from the commie loving Democrats.
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    "I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
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    I forgot to add that the high costs medical care thanks to the trail lawyers and Democrats go far beyond the liability costs. Doctors delivering babies now routinely perform cesarean surgery not because it is needed but because if the baby has any abnormalities the lawyers will argue that baby was injured because a cesarean was not performed.

    They perform a whole bunch of useless tests and procedures for all kinds of operations and check ups now not because it is really needed but because of CYA to protect themselves from lawyers.

    It is something like the costs of 911. It is a lot more than the loss of the WTC and all the priceless data lost but all the extra security that we have to go through nowadays to go anywhere. Here we are protecting ourselves from terrorists and in the medical field it is the trail lawyers who the medical profession has to charge an arm and a leg to protect themselves from and all this is courtesy of the Democrats who have refused to pass legislation capping damages in civil suits to reasonable costs out of their loyalty to the trial lawyers an against America's interest of lower health care costs.
    "I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
    "I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
    Barry Goldwater

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    In a nutshell.....Glenn basically hit it on the head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksufan View Post
    I would be willing to bet that what you consider "Bush hatrid" is the same manner in which you talked about Bill Clinton, so what's the difference, just that your always right? I hope you get another Clinton so you can fume for 4 years. As for taking basic English classes, I doubt you want to compare education. Good evening.
    Please, at least spell "hatrid" correctly. My 1rst born child had a birth defect where her intestines did not close up in her stomach. It is called gastroschesis(sp?). I was a mere 18 years old and this is my first born so I was heartbroken. ( We had a doctor from India I think and he was really Doom and Gloom) After setting the doctor straight( don't tell mom that we will be burying our 1st born) ( I did have to tell him he would get a royal a$$ beating if he talked that way in front of my wife again.) we carried along and a specialist did three surguries on my baby. Today you would not be able to pick her out for being one that won't make it. I'm glad that in our country we have people that can help people that need it. Without them we would be screwed.If my daughter did not receive immediate intervention she would have died. There was another child that was born within a day or two with the same birth defect and she didn't make it. It broke my heart to see the other girls grandfather come in night after night the same as me and hold his granddaughter only to get the worst news possible. Now, this just about tore me up to think about this again so don't beat me up on this one.
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    It's just like communism, it sound's good in theory to the masses. Just doesn't work in the real world. If it get's in in America, the only real benefeciaries will be those with connection's, just like it was for the Russians during the cold war. Average Joe will be paying the bill as long as he's able & when he isn't, he'll die due to lack of medical care to make room for the next guy.

    The system is scr---- up, but the lawyers in Washington aren't interested in fixing it because that's there livelyhood. I think the only way to fix it is to put severe restriction's on trial lawyer's including a one million dollar cap. (to be split between the lawyer & plaintiff) Then anytime a frivolous lawsuit is filed (spilled hot coffee, accident, etc.) the laywer & the plantiff be charged ( IT IS ILLEGAL ) & be made to serve time in prison instead of getting rich. That's the law, but judges don't enforce it because they are lawyer's too. That would stop the sue someone & get rich attitude that has became so popular in our nation. Folk's don't look at it like that but, it's STEALING & the rest of us must pay. After the lawyer's, the insurance compaines need a major overhaul. No more telling Doctor's what they can or can't do or what they must do to CYA. Then the hospital's, & finally the Doctor's can once again practice medicine as only they know how to do in the first place.

    If the Washington Democrat's have there way & passes something like this the government will ultimately decide who will live & who will die. That way they can fix the problems with social security at the same time. I'd bet a hundred dollars against a hole in a doughnut they have that one figured out, but our nation has gotten so engrossed in (someone else can do it for me so I won't have to) that people are blinded to what's right in front of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrogdog View Post
    So...someone starts a topic about the Dims retarded health care plan, and you go off on this crap? What does that to do with the topic at hand?

    That is sort of why we shy away from people like you. People that can't follow extremely simple conversations probably should not even be voting, much less running for president.
    Show me ONE dem/lib who can stay on topic. They have lost their arguments before they open their mouth and head for tangents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Culpepper View Post
    Please, at least spell "hatrid" correctly. My 1rst born child had a birth defect where her intestines did not close up in her stomach. It is called gastroschesis(sp?). I was a mere 18 years old and this is my first born so I was heartbroken. ( We had a doctor from India I think and he was really Doom and Gloom) After setting the doctor straight( don't tell mom that we will be burying our 1st born) ( I did have to tell him he would get a royal a$$ beating if he talked that way in front of my wife again.) we carried along and a specialist did three surguries on my baby. Today you would not be able to pick her out for being one that won't make it. I'm glad that in our country we have people that can help people that need it. Without them we would be screwed.If my daughter did not receive immediate intervention she would have died. There was another child that was born within a day or two with the same birth defect and she didn't make it. It broke my heart to see the other girls grandfather come in night after night the same as me and hold his granddaughter only to get the worst news possible. Now, this just about tore me up to think about this again so don't beat me up on this one.
    That’s quite a story – John.
    Nice to hear your daughter made it through.
    (your story…and the ‘grandfather’ part hit close to home for me).

    Can we not have a health care system available for every ‘citizen’ (as a basic human right), that also runs efficiently and provides enough incentive for doctors and nurses to work hard and get better at what they do (i.e., the American way)?

    I’d like my cake and I’d like to eat it too…maybe Obama can figure it out next year…

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