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  1. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by seatonheating View Post
    Highly, highly unlikely. The furnace will die many years before it would happen, if at all.
    Exactly,no worries here!

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    Well believe it or not I saw this happen once "without" the hole being cut out when the evap. overflowed and the platform below sunk about an inch cut a nice little slice in it, don't know how long it took but the system was not that old, but yea maybe your right, but still back to answering the OP question it's shotty work and should have never been cut out like that. He really did not ask about any worries he asked about is this acceptable workmanship and my answer is no. Go buy you a new car and have them cut out your fender wells to accept taller tires because they did not have tires to fit are you going to accept that?
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    I don't know why they cut the side of that door on that carrier unit. All it is is a knock out, I guess they were a little too short on the B vent

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    Quote Originally Posted by diverus View Post
    I don't know why they cut the side of that door on that carrier unit. All it is is a knock out, I guess they were a little too short on the B vent
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bill View Post
    Well believe it or not I saw this happen once "without" the hole being cut out when the evap. overflowed and the platform below sunk about an inch cut a nice little slice in it, don't know how long it took but the system was not that old, but yea maybe your right, but still back to answering the OP question it's shotty work and should have never been cut out like that. He really did not ask about any worries he asked about is this acceptable workmanship and my answer is no. Go buy you a new car and have them cut out your fender wells to accept taller tires because they did not have tires to fit are you going to accept that?
    i agree with that.
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    b-vent won't fit through those knockouts.If the inspectors won't allow single wall connectors outside the cabinet you wouldn't have a choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markwolf View Post
    b-vent won't fit through those knockouts.If the inspectors won't allow single wall connectors outside the cabinet you wouldn't have a choice.
    Exactly!Sounds like the voice of experience!

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    Mark if you did not know better would you accept that at your home? and also it's poor at the very least for a mfg. to build something that has to be cut out like that to work very poor.
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    of course we are talking about the same mfg that when you order an indoor coil you have to re-use everything from the old one, won't even send a new drain pan!!! or when replacing a leaking OD liquid service valve, expects you to re-use that piston assembly that always get knicked and scratched when try'n to remove and won't seal to the (still using) flare fittings and leaky threaded connnections!!! or get inside the panels and looks like the bean counters got a major dicount on yellow and pink wire at the local hardware store. sorry just had to get that off my chest... but at least they finaly ditched the "king" valves' or are they coming back?? just never been a big fan
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    Quote Originally Posted by markwolf View Post
    b-vent won't fit through those knockouts.If the inspectors won't allow single wall connectors outside the cabinet you wouldn't have a choice.
    I have gotten the B-vent to fit but hard as hell to try to line up the door. If you read the manuel if you vent from the side you must use B-vent not from the top you don't and you have to use vent in a downflow situation also. I agree though B-vent is very tough in this situation.

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    Here in los angeles(some areas) they do allow a piece of single wall just to make the transition coming out of the furnace

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    No, that's not acceptable workmanship, plain and simple. Call the company. They should bring a new door. Don't let them zip screw a piece of sheet metal over the hole or use foil duct tape (which I have seen). Not familiar with this model, but it doesn't even look like there was a knock out there originally.

    On the bright side, at least the guy knew that the smoke pipe had to go up hill.

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